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re: Sloan Haters On Finebaum
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:55 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:55 am to Chad504boy
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He’s calling the good plays that go 3 and out?
He’s calling plays that protect our injured QB until he’s able to play without pain.
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:08 am to MasterKnight
Didn't say kids made their decision on what they hear on Paul Finebaum just that it doesn't help. However, if you think kids in 2025 are not all over social media and doesn't come across post all over that media that fans think our OC sucks and want him fired you are fooling yourself. Kids and parents make the decisions about school choices. If they think that OC will possibly not be there once they choose they will weigh that into their decision.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 7:09 am
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:15 am to Kikicaca
These guys are all paid a fortune. If they suck thwy need to be criticized and Sloan and Nuss have fricked SUCKED
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:33 am to TigerDat
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He cant force the players to execute.
So you think LSU’s offensive players are legitimately that bad?
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:44 am to Kikicaca
Sloan's performance as a play caller has been objectively below the LSU standard. Since he took over, we have been absurdly bad in 3rd down, red zone, and rushing yards. There was no reason to pay this guy 7 figures to learn on the job except to keep Underwood. Now we are all sitting here in year 2 talking about his potential and all the reasons it hasn't looked good. Guess what? If he does figure it out, he'll be gone the same year. He wants to be a head coach. The LSU OC hire should have been a proven established elite play caller.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:08 am to Kikicaca
He didn't realize Nuss was hurt.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:14 am to Tigerlaff
Sorry I don't agree. Because Nuss's game is limited and a young OL Sloan is limited on play calling. In addition BK made it clear Sloan is following a staff concencious gameplan. Sorry no offense but you don't know how college gameplans and players skills sets and player injuries affect offensive play calling. You want to make it a simple problem as play calling. It's much more complicated than that. People here were wrong about Ensminger and are wrong about Sloan.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:15 am to Kikicaca
Because recruits listen/watch finebaum? I'm fricking 39 and think he sounds like an old fart.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:31 am to 33inNC
exactly
Our offense does not utilize the strengths of our offensive team...quite the contrary, it emphasizes our weaknesses....and that is the crux of the problem imo. Our play design is predictable, not enough creativity by a long shot, and our Oline blocking schemes, which are the design of the play by the OC, are way beyond predictable, thus hard to overcome.
Our running game offense design is the worst I have witnessed in decades.
Our offense does not utilize the strengths of our offensive team...quite the contrary, it emphasizes our weaknesses....and that is the crux of the problem imo. Our play design is predictable, not enough creativity by a long shot, and our Oline blocking schemes, which are the design of the play by the OC, are way beyond predictable, thus hard to overcome.
Our running game offense design is the worst I have witnessed in decades.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:04 am to Kikicaca
Again those kids are more in the know about what is going on behind the scenes than any fan going on a rant on a message board or some show that encourages the idiots ranting. Besides in this day of NIL the money talks. Some do not care who the HC, the OC, of the DC is as long as the money is right. Some will go to a school bc that is where they choose to go and want to go. The biggest reason for a player not to sign with the school is if the HC is no longer there not the DC or the OC. That's who they want to play for.
Players understand 2 things : if OC is successful enough, he will be a HC somewhere else, if OC is not successful, he won't be coaching. The HC is the key figure in the recruiting. Baker won't be the DC for long based on his success record. You think players will not come to LSU when Baker becomes a HC somewhere else?
Players understand 2 things : if OC is successful enough, he will be a HC somewhere else, if OC is not successful, he won't be coaching. The HC is the key figure in the recruiting. Baker won't be the DC for long based on his success record. You think players will not come to LSU when Baker becomes a HC somewhere else?
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:09 am to Cadello
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I like Sloan
Why
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:10 am to Kikicaca
Sloan is following BK's instructions to "dial it back". I don't agree with "dial back the offense" but that's BK's instructions.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:19 am to Kikicaca
This season is still early, so I’m certainly gonna let things play out the rest of the way before advocating change at any coordinator or position-coach role.
But I do feel confident in making a blanket statement as it comes to respective units of LSU football: LSU has enough resources that neither our offense or defense or special teams should EVER rank in the bottom 25% of the nation. Theoretically, I expect all units to be in the Top50-ish of their respective categories, preferably Top25ish. I’ve always said if we rank 100, whether it be on defense or offense or whatever, I don’t care whose fault it is that’s unacceptable and change is necessary.
I’m an optimist, and have hope that Sloan will get this offense going. But the criticism is absolutely valid and warranted. We shall see what happens in the next 9+ games.
But I do feel confident in making a blanket statement as it comes to respective units of LSU football: LSU has enough resources that neither our offense or defense or special teams should EVER rank in the bottom 25% of the nation. Theoretically, I expect all units to be in the Top50-ish of their respective categories, preferably Top25ish. I’ve always said if we rank 100, whether it be on defense or offense or whatever, I don’t care whose fault it is that’s unacceptable and change is necessary.
I’m an optimist, and have hope that Sloan will get this offense going. But the criticism is absolutely valid and warranted. We shall see what happens in the next 9+ games.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 11:27 am
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:56 am to High Life
No reason.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:59 am to Kikicaca
Wasn’t Ensminger the OC who kept Jaime Howard throwing the ball against Auburn after so many interceptions?
I remember LSU had the ball on about it’s own 40 with a 3rd and 5, and just over two minutes to go. Easy to run the ball and punt them to the 20, and challenge them to score, when they hadn’t gained 50 yards on our Defense in the 2nd half. But Ensminger calls another pass for a pick 6. Maybe the worst LSU offensive call in team history given the circumstances.
I still haven’t forgiven him for that gut wrenching loss.
I remember LSU had the ball on about it’s own 40 with a 3rd and 5, and just over two minutes to go. Easy to run the ball and punt them to the 20, and challenge them to score, when they hadn’t gained 50 yards on our Defense in the 2nd half. But Ensminger calls another pass for a pick 6. Maybe the worst LSU offensive call in team history given the circumstances.
I still haven’t forgiven him for that gut wrenching loss.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:17 pm to Jamey21
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the fans kept blaming Mike Denbrock
No one blamed Denbrock, they blamed Jayden, preferring Nuss to start.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:23 pm to Kikicaca
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SLOAN IS NOT CALLING BAD PLAYS. I think it's Nuss's injury and a young OL.
If it's all on Nuss, then why does our run game suck? If it's all on Nuss, then why is sloan calling backwards passes CONSISTENTLY on 3rd and short? Why is Sloan calling run plays on 3rd and long? Nuss isn't calling read option plays, knowing Nuss isn't a run threat.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:24 pm to QB
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Our offense does not utilize the strengths of our offensive team...quite the contrary, it emphasizes our weaknesses....and that is the crux of the problem imo. Our play design is predictable, not enough creativity by a long shot, and our Oline blocking schemes, which are the design of the play by the OC, are way beyond predictable, thus hard to overcome.
Our running game offense design is the worst I have witnessed in decades
Please be specific? What schemes are we using that we should stop? What schemes aren't we using that we should start using?
Posted on 9/18/25 at 12:48 pm to MidCityTiger
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Wasn’t Ensminger the OC who kept Jaime Howard throwing the ball against Auburn after so many interceptions?
No, that was Lynn Amedee. Ensminger was the OC at Texas A&M in 1994.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 1:48 pm to Kikicaca
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Sorry I don't agree. Because Nuss's game is limited and a young OL Sloan is limited on play calling. In addition BK made it clear Sloan is following a staff concencious gameplan. Sorry no offense but you don't know how college gameplans and players skills sets and player injuries affect offensive play calling. You want to make it a simple problem as play calling. It's much more complicated than that. People here were wrong about Ensminger and are wrong about Sloan.
You keep spouting all this bullshite and trying to justify you're right, because you're old. Brian Kelly is not telling Sloan to not move the sticks, and to not score. You can read whatever you want to, into that bullshite statement, but the statement he made, was a half hearted attempt to defend Sloan. You can run "safer" plays and limit Nussmeier from slinging the ball into double coverage, and still be productive. WE CAN NOT RUN THE FOOTBALL. Do you really think Kelly is telling him to repeatedly call plays that get stuffed for 3 and outs??? they're paying this guy to produce, and he has shown time and time again, that he's not capable of producing a balanced offense, or any semblance of a run game. He's in way over his head, and getting paid good money to learn on the job. That may be fine for FCS schools, but it should have never been an experiment that LSU had to perform. So far, the experiment isn't working.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 2:22 pm
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