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re: Skenes vs Holman (UPDATED through 6 games)

Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:27 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278499 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:27 am to
Skenes is a 1.1

People will compare Holman to him all year but it’s not fair to Holman. He will never be that
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
1120 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:46 am to
Holman is a really good pitcher. Skenes was a fastball pitcher. A lot of times he received a bad call from the HP ump which resulted in another pitch. Sometimes those pitches were hits which led to runs.

I’m glad that Holman transferred to LSU. His addition helps the pitching have depth that has not been had in while.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51264 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:56 am to
quote:

he’s not Skenes, and threads like this are really unfair to him.



Its not that serious HC. Just thought it would drive some good discussion seeing their stats side by side. Might even surprise some folks to see YTD Holman has been better

Just goes to show there's more than 1 way to succeed pitching in CBB.

If we're talking straight up comp, Nola is probably more apples to apples. And i think we'd all be happy w/ a Nola type season outta Luke
This post was edited on 3/9/24 at 10:00 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30384 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 10:03 am to
quote:

They're right, there wont be another Skenes, Holman might just be better.



I don't think so. But that isn't a knock. Only time will tell.

Another stat, Skenes threw strikes 68.9% of the time after 4 games, That dropped to 66% by season's end. Holman's is currently at 63.6%.

More data after 4 games,

Holmann:

85 batter faced
5 singles
3 doubles
3 HBP
1 WP
14 Fly-Outs
16 Ground Outs


Skenes:

86 batter faced
6 singles
1 double
1 HR
1 HBP
1 WP
14 Fly-Outs
10 Ground Outs
Posted by Asleepinthecove
Member since Jan 2023
934 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 10:04 am to
Holman reminds me of Aaron Nola. He has similar speed, smarts, control, 4 pitches, and they all have great movement.
This post was edited on 3/9/24 at 10:07 am
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77510 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 10:14 am to
Honk, youll have your heartbroken if you expect holman to keep pace with skenes. With that said, yes, the Nola comp is the best one i can think of. Maybe a slightly lesser Nola
Posted by Snuffleupagus
Port City
Member since Jul 2011
258 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 10:24 am to
Whats nice is that with this staff our ace doesnt have to be quite Skenes level for us to make a deep run. Holman is a stud and worth of the Ace title for this team. Best staff we have had in a long time and they are carrying the team.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11893 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 10:35 am to
Yea but let’s see what happens when Jay mysteriously sits him before game time.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 10:36 am to
quote:

I still think that what will separate Skenes from about anyone else is what he did in Omaha.
He made Florida players crap their pants just by walking out to the bullpen during the championship game.
Posted by roscoe mike
Member since Nov 2009
1578 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 10:58 am to
If you never saw Skenes pitch in person, you just don’t know…
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2870 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:08 am to
quote:

I like Holman, but are you just going to ignore that Skenes has 20% more strikeouts in the same number of innings?


And infinitely more runs allowed.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18674 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:08 am to
Holman is a very good pitcher but doesn’t have near the “it” factor Skenes had.

Skenes on the bump was border line unfair. Not just through for relatively easy games but through and entire season.


When opposing coaches start to move their rotation to avoid having their ace pitch against Holman we can begin to have a conversation about comparing the two.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9510 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:47 am to
Saying Holman will be better is not needed. The fact that Holman has basically matched Skenes start of the season so far is impressive enough.

Some on here have speculated Holman is just keeping Friday night warm for Jump. I don't see that happening personally. I think Holman is locked in as the Friday night guy.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12907 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

He made Florida players crap their pants just by walking out to the bullpen during the championship game.

One of my favorite moments.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12907 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

Holman is a very good pitcher but doesn’t have near the “it” factor Skenes had.

No, not that nebulous “it” factor!

By “it” you mean skills and the actual performance metrics.

Is that “it”?
Posted by slapnuts74
Nuttsville
Member since Jan 2019
499 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 12:55 pm to
What’s scary is Holman did not have his best stuff last night and still didn’t give up a hit.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10092 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 1:30 pm to
More Nola than Skenes.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

He made Florida players crap their pants just by walking out to the bullpen during the championship game.


One of my favorite moments.
According to Coach Johnson, which I have not fact checked, he claims once the Florida dugout saw Skenes walking to the bullpen, the next 8 Florida batters all swung at the first pitch thrown to them.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24423 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 1:45 pm to
You should write for the advocate because that’s about as useful as the questions Koki or whomever works there would ask.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8666 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 4:58 pm to
Thanks for stats. We got another winner.
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