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SEC losses broken down
Posted on 5/7/23 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 5/7/23 at 7:31 pm
LSU (6) v. A&M (8) - 8 BB
LSU (3) v. ARK (9). - 6 BB 10 innings
7 ER last inning
LSU (4) v. TENN (14) - 5 BB
4 BB, Error, and 6 Runs given up in 1st.
4 Runs given up in second.
LSU (5) v. USCe (13) - 8 BB
Only 6 H on offense
LSU (10) v. UK (13) - 5 BB
13 Runs given up, only 7 Earned
LSU (6) v. AUB (8) - 7 BB
LSU (2) v. AUB (12) - 8BB
12 runs given up, only 8 Earned
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Breakdown of the SEC games lost, May have 1 or 2 missing.
Between the walks and unearned runs, these games were impossible to win due to unforced mistakes, some of the games were close because of our offensive talent.
Don’t have time to go through games we won.
First loss against Iowa was also a lopsided dumpster fire.
Silver lining: this is fixable. It’s not a matter of LSU being out classed. It’s self sabotage and repeatedly helping the opposing team. This is the equivalent of turning the ball over 4-5 times a game in football, and still winning 6 of 8 SEC games.
Have 3 weeks to get the ship right. It’s remarkable the amount of games they have won shooting themselves in the foot the way they have.
If they just throw strikes and play defense, very few teams can hit for 10+ runs without the help of walks and Unearned Runs.
If they figure it out, nobody is beating this team. Even with the depleted pitching staff. THROW STRIKES.
LSU (3) v. ARK (9). - 6 BB 10 innings
7 ER last inning
LSU (4) v. TENN (14) - 5 BB
4 BB, Error, and 6 Runs given up in 1st.
4 Runs given up in second.
LSU (5) v. USCe (13) - 8 BB
Only 6 H on offense
LSU (10) v. UK (13) - 5 BB
13 Runs given up, only 7 Earned
LSU (6) v. AUB (8) - 7 BB
LSU (2) v. AUB (12) - 8BB
12 runs given up, only 8 Earned
———————————————————-
Breakdown of the SEC games lost, May have 1 or 2 missing.
Between the walks and unearned runs, these games were impossible to win due to unforced mistakes, some of the games were close because of our offensive talent.
Don’t have time to go through games we won.
First loss against Iowa was also a lopsided dumpster fire.
Silver lining: this is fixable. It’s not a matter of LSU being out classed. It’s self sabotage and repeatedly helping the opposing team. This is the equivalent of turning the ball over 4-5 times a game in football, and still winning 6 of 8 SEC games.
Have 3 weeks to get the ship right. It’s remarkable the amount of games they have won shooting themselves in the foot the way they have.
If they just throw strikes and play defense, very few teams can hit for 10+ runs without the help of walks and Unearned Runs.
If they figure it out, nobody is beating this team. Even with the depleted pitching staff. THROW STRIKES.
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Posted on 5/7/23 at 7:34 pm to TigerAttorney
You are correct. Back to the basics of sound baseball.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:04 pm to TigerAttorney
That is a bunch of walks.....jeez.
Nice post, did not know this.
Nice post, did not know this.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:08 pm to TigerAttorney
I do think the tightened strike zone is screwing with many teams. Apparently they’re calling pitches that end up in the strike zone a strike 94% of the time. That number is way way too low.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:15 pm to TigerAttorney
Excellent observations but how you gonna fix the pitching staff behind our Ace. Your not. We are what we are. Starters 2 and 3 have struggled all year and have not gotten better except a couple of games. Floyd is a basket case once he loses it. Little can rarely even find it.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:16 pm to TigerAttorney
On Mahtook’s show, Milazzo mentioned someone last weekend who came in, walked a guy and got pulled. Milazzo said “he walked him, but he didn’t give in” - like it was a successful outing.
I assume by “giving in”, he meant throw it over the plate.
I assume by “giving in”, he meant throw it over the plate.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:17 pm to TigerAttorney
But LSU has good pitching according to these fricking fans, don’t worry LSU will win it all.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:19 pm to subidc
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how you gonna fix the pitching staff behind our Ace.
Run someone out there that can throw it over the plate. Make the other team hit and earn it, stop walking 8 people in 2 innings.
Our staff isn’t getting raked around the field. They literally can’t throw strikes.
It’s fixable. An example, maybe you don’t bounce a breaker in the dirt 0-2 then go change down and away from lefties 1-2, and make a kid that’s struggling paint a corner at the knees 2-2. A marginal miss/ shite ump, then a missed pitch 3-2. Walk
Pitcher just executed 4 pitches perfectly, 5th pitch there but didn’t get the call, 6th pitch of the AB is the first miss and you just walked the batter.
Not getting that ball an inch off the corner hurt Skenes against USCe and lead to him falling behind in counts and giving up the bombs early.
This post was edited on 5/7/23 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:20 pm to vidtiger23
quote:
I do think the tightened strike zone is screwing with many teams. Apparently they’re calling pitches that end up in the strike zone a strike 94% of the time. That number is way way too low.
Is it easy to find statistics for walks in the SEC this year compared to other years?
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:20 pm to TigerAttorney
quote:
This is the equivalent of turning the ball over 4-5 times a game in football, and still winning 6 of 8 SEC games.
This is a surprisingly good analogy that hopefully will keep some of the baseball noobs off the ledge…for now
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:21 pm to jman
Why must everything be extremes? Not the best pitching, but other teams are also struggling. LSU had won what 8 SEC games in a row? Very much could have won last night. Today sucked, but LSU is still competitive.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:24 pm to TigerAttorney
I honestly think we sweep State this weekend. That’ll put us at 19-7 and we just need 1 or 2 from Georgia and the SEC tournament to be a national seed. To put as 20 or 21 wins.
ThTs what you fight for I don’t care about being 1st overall honestly.
ThTs what you fight for I don’t care about being 1st overall honestly.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:56 pm to NebraskaExPat
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Is it easy to find statistics for walks in the SEC this year compared to other years?
I’m sure it’s possible with research, but I haven’t done it yet. I do believe that we are currently 4th in the SEC in walks though. Which is mind blowing with how much we’ve struggled.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 9:14 pm to TigerAttorney
quote:
On Mahtook’s show, Milazzo mentioned someone last weekend who came in, walked a guy and got pulled. Milazzo said “he walked him, but he didn’t give in” - like it was a successful outing.
I assume by “giving in”, he meant throw it over the plate.
If this is the attitude, it needs to be changed. That's an ego problem..."well I walked him but I didn't give him anything to hit either" and that's bullshite. Same result.
quote:
Our staff isn’t getting raked around the field. They literally can’t throw strikes.
Can't...or won't? See above. Are they trying too hard to outsmart the batter and throw something in the dirt that makes him swing like a fool? A disciplined batter will take the walk any day.
This post was edited on 5/7/23 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 5/7/23 at 9:18 pm to TigerAttorney
Apparently throwing strikes is not in the game plan for these pitchers.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 9:22 pm to vidtiger23
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Apparently they’re calling pitches that end up in the strike zone a strike 94% of the time. That number is way way too low.
6% missed strikes is ~ 1 of every 16 or 17 strikes. If 60% of ~300 pitches in a game are strikes, then that is about 11 missed strike calls in a game and needs to be better.
Some of the missed calls don't end up having a significant impact, but probably two or three for each team per game may be the difference between an out and a walk.
In the long run it is probably equal impact to both teams, but a missed strike call in a critical moment of a particular game can allow an inning to continue with a walk when it should be over and also cause a pitcher to have to throw more pitches thus being pulled from a game sooner.
I think umpires are having trouble adjusting to calling a tighter zone (since they are now being graded for it) when they have been giving a ball width off the corners for many years.
This post was edited on 5/7/23 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 5/7/23 at 9:48 pm to NebraskaExPat
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Is it easy to find statistics for walks in the SEC this year compared to other years?
Someone posted recently that walks were up from just under 8 per game last year to just under 9 this year.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 10:50 pm to lsu711
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On Mahtook’s show, Milazzo mentioned someone last weekend who came in, walked a guy and got pulled. Milazzo said “he walked him, but he didn’t give in” - like it was a successful outing. I assume by “giving in”, he meant throw it over the plate.
Very short sighted if that’s what he meant. So he didn’t get a hit but he’s still on base. Batter gets the last laugh.
This post was edited on 5/7/23 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 5/7/23 at 10:53 pm to EauxZark Tiger
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Can't...or won't? See above. Are they trying too hard to outsmart the batter and throw something in the dirt that makes him swing like a fool? A disciplined batter will take the walk any day.
I think won’t is the correct answer. Which makes the situation even more frustrating.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 11:03 pm to TigerAttorney
Agree, but when the Ump forces you go throw meatballs down broadway to get a strike, it’s not that simple.
I’m fully in the camp of moving to computerized strike/ball calls.
I’m fully in the camp of moving to computerized strike/ball calls.
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