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re: SEC leaning towards 1 division

Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by lsutigerelizabeth
Houma
Member since May 2022
1304 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:05 pm to
We will not have Bama every year. Jesus people they won’t cancel the permanent matchup of Tennessee/Bama
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2871 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

If it is 3 permanent opponents and 6 other games. Essentially that is the equivalent to a pod schedule they are just lumping all together for Championship game seeding.


The difference is that in a pod, the 4 teams all have each other as their permanent opponents. With this, the permanent opponents are independent of one another.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17060 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Give it time, we will eventually break off from the NCAA and do our own thing.


This WILL happen

I really dont want to see SEC schools playing non-SEC schools any more.

The SEC Champions IS the National Champion anyway.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Who says single division? Less than 2 is no division.


So, if there are 4 pods there are only 3 divisions?
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

"ranked" means what??? Silly voter polls?


The CFP rankings?

Do you disagree with any of the SEC team’s current rankings?
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
8998 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:14 pm to
Yes I understand playing a 9 game schedule but that leaves 6 teams you do not play. And without having teams on divisions it leaves open the possibility of having a multiple teams with the same record who did not play each other.

I still think the best way to mitigate this is to have the 4 team Pods or 8 Team Divisions
Posted by geauxseph69
Member since Oct 2022
172 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:15 pm to
Single division is correct. You can divide by 1.
Posted by geauxseph69
Member since Oct 2022
172 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:16 pm to
Single division is correct. You can divide by 1.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4344 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

I could see lots of frickery incoming without a pod system or divisions.
This!
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4344 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

2 highest ranked teams play for championship. Makes sense
And if there are 3 undefeated teams?

Then the 3rd place team has a huge advantage by remaining undefeated.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Yes I understand playing a 9 game schedule but that leaves 6 teams you do not play. And without having teams on divisions it leaves open the possibility of having a multiple teams with the same record who did not play each other.

I really don't see this as a problem. All the teams involved in this scenario in the SEC will probably make the expanded playoffs. We will just have to disagree.

This said, I'm not a fan of this cream rises to the top model. I'm a fan of Cinderella. While this model is probably better for TV, I don't think it's great for the sport of college football. Pods allow more schools to declare themselves champions of something and give them hope of winning it all if circumstances allow. I think 2001 LSU was a great story; so were those MO teams a few years ago. That isn't going to happen anymore and I think that is a loss.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
1909 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

Call me a skeptic or pessimist, but the SEC could really play games with scheduling using this arrangement. I wonder how Alabama will fare once the conference starts working with new schedules and permanent games...


With three permanent rivals, Alabama will definitely play Tennessee and Auburn every year. If they play every team over a 4 year stretch, they will likely play LSU about half as often, but they would play UGA, Florida, Texas, and Oklahoma way, way more often.

Overall, even in Alabama gets matched with Vandy, the schedule will end up being much more balanced among the teams in the conference.

(I'm betting LSU gets Texas 4&8, R-Kansas, and Go to Hell Ole Miss as our permanent rivals.)

GEAUX TIGERS!
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8639 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

So, if there are 4 pods there are only 3 divisions?


that's not the context of him saying single division.

If there is only 1 "division" the conference isn't divided at all. Its just the conference.

You divided it into 4 division and called them pods. Those are single divisions but the conference is divided.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Dan0fontenot
Youngsville
Member since Sep 2018
519 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:35 pm to
The only thing that I am absolutely positive about is that this is going to be set up to favor Alabama. The SEC sees the writing on the wall and they know Alabama is on the way down so they have to come in and somehow save them. BOOK IT!
Posted by TigerKW
Member since Oct 2019
312 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:37 pm to
Saw a rumor of us having Bama, 4&8, and Ole Miss with Bama having Aub, LSU, and UT. It included reviving some of the old Big 12 rivalries as permanents (UT, OU, 4&8, Ark, etc) given the new additions coming also.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23079 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Yes I understand playing a 9 game schedule but that leaves 6 teams you do not play. And without having teams on divisions it leaves open the possibility of having a multiple teams with the same record who did not play each other.

I still think the best way to mitigate this is to have the 4 team Pods or 8 Team Divisions


With 16 teams in the league, they have to do something to maximize the chances of everyone playing every school within a 2-4 year window. 8 team divisions would be absolutely awful in that regard. Might as well be 2 difference conferences.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4344 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

I really don't see this as a problem. All the teams involved in this scenario in the SEC will probably make the expanded playoffs.
I don't see how a conference championship game can fit in that scenario.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14549 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:39 pm to
I'm thinking this leads to no conference championship game. Will be "co-champions" for Tues like other sports. A championship game won't help a team make the playoffs since both should easily be in with a 12 team playoff.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

And if there are 3 undefeated teams?
Then the 3rd place team has a huge advantage by remaining undefeated.


Honestly, don’t think that would be possible but I guess we won’t know until we see how they structure the schedule.

How could you have 3 undefeated out of:
LSU, UGA, Bama
UGA, Bama, Tenn
OU, LSU, UF
Tenn, Texas, Bama
LSU, UF, UGA

Seems like at least 2 of the teams will play each other in a 12 game schedule.

More likely run into issues with three or four 1-loss teams, but again CFP rankings are usually close enough.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 2:42 pm
Posted by lsutigerelizabeth
Houma
Member since May 2022
1304 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Saw a rumor of us having Bama, 4&8, and Ole Miss with Bama having Aub, LSU, and UT. It included reviving some of the old Big 12 rivalries as permanents (UT, OU, 4&8, Ark, etc) given the new additions coming also.


WE WONT HAVE ALABAMA

They aren’t going to give Bama Auburn, Tennessee and LSU
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