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re: SEC leaning towards 1 division

Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by lsutigerelizabeth
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:55 pm to
It will be A&M, Arkansas and ole miss or state.

Won’t be Bama 100%
Posted by JKChesterton
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:57 pm to
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It will be A&M, Arkansas and ole miss or state.

Won’t be Bama 100%



Don't agree 100% it will be Ole Miss, Aggie and either MSU or Arkansas. Preferably I hope it is MSU. Some rumbling that Aggie does not care to play Texas every year and would be comfortable in a 3-6 format playing them every other year.

Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:01 pm to
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a single division




So.. a conference?
Posted by Born in BR
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:06 pm to
NOT! Teams performances vary yearly unlike the NFL! LDU and Tenn were bottom feeders last year!
Posted by LSURulzSEC
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:19 pm to
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That might be true, but there is no way Alabama is playing Auburn, TENN and LSU.


If they consider Tennessee #9 behind A&M, they would. They probably will need to do so to have geographic balance.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:21 pm to
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It will be A&M, Arkansas and ole miss or state. Won’t be Bama 100%


There is zero chance that LSU gets no permanent opponents amongst the Top 6 programs.
Posted by lsutigerelizabeth
Houma
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:40 pm to
Then it will be Florida.

You think they’ll give Bama:

Auburn, Tennessee AND LSU?
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:46 pm to
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If they consider Tennessee #9 behind A&M, they would. They probably will need to do so to have geographic balance.



How is TENN not in the top 8. I think this everybody plays 2 in the top 8 is just a way for people to try to argue that LSU is going to play Alabama.

Alabama's 2 historical rivals are Auburn and TENN, one is in-state and one is a border state.

Alabama is not going to agree to those 3 games.

They are going to use some geographic metrics and historical rivals. LSU does not meet either for Alabama.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 4:52 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:51 pm to
for real? why is this "breaking" he said this on air At SEC media days.
Posted by Thorny
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:56 pm to
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More than likely they put A&M there to balance LSU and Texas. LSU is still going to get one of the others as well, probably Bama or Florida.


We are absolutely going to get Texas A&M. Even if it was going to be a 1-7 rotation, our 1 would be Texas A&M, so they can maintain Oklahoma/Texas. The league has made it clear they want an LSU/Texas A&M rivalry.

The problem with us getting Florida is that they have to get Georgia and it's going to be just too tempting to give them Tennessee. I don't see them giving Florida to us in that scenario.

Bama? Your joking right? If your whole argument is that the SEC will screw LSU (a legit argument), then it relies on them giving Bama a break. But, Bama is definitely tied to Auburn and Tennessee, then adding a tough game like LSU has no chance. Bama is getting State.

Yes, my LSU lineup is one of the more weak ones. However, both Ole Miss and Arkansas are trophy games (as little as we give a crap about the trophies). I tend to think that is something the SEC will consider. (The real sign of whether the SEC cares about trophy games is if they maintain the Texas A&M - South Carolina " Bonham Trophy" game.)

JMHO.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 4:59 pm
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:06 pm to
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How is TENN not in the top 8. I think this everybody plays 2 in the top 8 is just a way for people to try to argue that LSU is going to play Alabama.


They are #8 in reality, but it creates geographic imbalance if they treat them as a top tier team. Then 5 of the 8 are in Eastern portion of the footprint and only 3 of 8 are in the West. That creates problems pairing the top teams. If A&M isn’t considered top tier, then they have to match LSU with 2 teams in the East and Texas has to play an Eastern team instead of Arkansas.
Posted by Safety Blitz
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:08 pm to
I think that’s the play here. Don’t play the extra game and position as many SEC teams as possible to make the 12 man playoff.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Clark W Griswold
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:08 pm to
It’s not a division of it just one.
Posted by TigersWin88
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:15 pm to
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I think with a 12 team playoff you are going to eventually see conference championship games go by the wayside


This is the most likely situation. The SEC Champion would probably just be awarded to the team with the best record at the end of the season.

This should be the outcome with a 12 team playoff, but I could see the SEC not wanting to miss out on that $
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 5:19 pm
Posted by lsutigerelizabeth
Houma
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:43 pm to
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Bama? Your joking right? If your whole argument is that the SEC will screw LSU (a legit argument), then it relies on them giving Bama a break. But, Bama is definitely tied to Auburn and Tennessee, then adding a tough game like LSU has no chance. Bama is getting State.


This guy gets it!!!

A&M is viewed by the SEC as our big matchup. We should be thrilled
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2975 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:51 pm to
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Bama? Your joking right? If your whole argument is that the SEC will screw LSU (a legit argument), then it relies on them giving Bama a break. But, Bama is definitely tied to Auburn and Tennessee, then adding a tough game like LSU has no chance. Bama is getting State.


No, I don’t think they are “screwing” LSU in this scenario nor would it be unfair to Bama. In truth, there isn’t a clear cut top half and bottom half. What there is is an obvious Top 6. There are going to try to make sure each of those 6 plays at least one of the others. They have Texas-Oklahoma and Florida-Georgia. If they don’t pair LSU-Alabama, then those teams are advantaged relative to the other top programs. From there, they want to find 2 teams to play two of those top teams, so that they only need one pair of top 6 teams to play a second top 6. Auburn is obvious as one of those both from a historical strength perspective and rivalry perspective. They get Alabama and Georgia. That leaves 3 teams in the West plus Florida needing another top tier opponent. That’s not a good fit for Tennessee. It is a good fit for A&M. They get Texas and LSU. That leaves Florida and Oklahoma needing another top opponent, which is likely each other.

At that point, Alabama can choose to hold onto their rivalry with Tennessee or they can choose an easier 3rd opponent. I’m sure they would choose Tennessee. The same holds true for either Georgia or Florida. They would probably give Tennessee the choice of rivals. It probably makes more sense to be Georgia since Florida ended up with 2 Top 6 matchups. In no way does Bama get Auburn and Tennessee as their “tough” opponents and even less so does LSU get A&M and Ole Miss. They have to face each other to balance the top, then they can have the other two as well. It won’t be perfectly equal that way, but it’s far closer than if they don’t face each other.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:53 pm to
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A&M is viewed by the SEC as our big matchup. We should be thrilled


It’s viewed as one big matchup. The top teams are expected to have 2 big matchups and at least one against the Top 6.
Posted by lsutigerelizabeth
Houma
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:57 pm to
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Top 6


You’re pulling this top 6 requirement out of your arse
Posted by lsutigerelizabeth
Houma
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

It’s viewed as one big matchup. The top teams are expected to have 2 big matchups and at least one against the Top 6.


You’re just wrong
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