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re: Scott Woodward is responsible for two of the worst coaching hires

Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15285 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

WOODWARD IS THE FKN COMMON DENOMINATOR ABD A FKN MORON



You ok man?
Posted by sarussell01
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2021
873 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:59 pm to
Dumbest comment on this post.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86465 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:59 pm to
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Let’s just focus on the extension
Because it defeats your entire premise.

Do you have a disability you're not disclosing?
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
34429 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:00 pm to
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He’s the one that hired Jimbo there in the first place moron, it’s on his resume’ forever that he made TWO terrible hires


I think you would find it very hard to get anyone to say that at the time of the hires they were “terrible”. Jimbo was recently off of a national championship annd multiple NY6 appearances and Brian Kelly was the all-time winning his coach at Notre Dame. Did they work out and materialize the way that they wanted to? Absolutely not but that doesn’t mean they were bad hires initially.

What do you think the success rate of hiring football coaches is???
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 4:03 pm
Posted by sarussell01
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2021
873 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:01 pm to
EXACTLY!! Somehow these idiots want to turn a blind eye to those Facts! Lmao
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5150 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:02 pm to
1. Woodward was not responsible for Jimbo's buyout contract.
2. Woodward is also responsible for multiple National Championships at LSU

learn before typing
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7157 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:04 pm to
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Idgaf about the extension!


The extension cost A&M about $45 million. It was a pretty big deal. He was on year 6 of the original 10 year deal. He was only going into year 4 when he got the extension. So he only coached 3 years under the original deal Woodward signed him to.

Effectively, the extension renders any further complaint about the original contract moot.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42729 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:06 pm to
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Anyone who denies the fact his INITIAL contract was still 10 years regardless of the extension is an idiot


No one is denying that. He was in year 5 of his contract when he got that extension and year 6 when he was fired. His buyout at the time he was fired would have been 30 Mil on the original contract. He got the original contract because he was a national championship head coach who still had a job with the team he won the natty with.


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especially when BK’s contract just so happened to be a 10 year contract too!


As was every coach who was pulled from another top-end university at the time.
Posted by SaintLSU
Gretna
Member since Apr 2007
4322 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:13 pm to
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The ten years isn't the problem. The fact that every penny was guaranteed whether he won, lost, or showed up to work...that's what makes that contract so terrible



Ten years is absolutely the fricking problem.
Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
2583 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:20 pm to
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He signed Jimbo Fisher and Brian Kelly to insane contracts


People keep repeating this over and over. As I agree his name is on the contract, but without donor support, do any of these massive contracts get the ok? People fire from the hip constantly in this league, and those two hires just were not good. On paper, both those coaches looked like they could make it happen, but at the end of the day they could not. And I do agree he has to take the lick for this hire. But to put all the blame on one guy is a wild thing in my opinion.
Posted by sarussell01
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2021
873 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:23 pm to
Football is the bread winner. Without football success those other programs fail. Learn before typing.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42729 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

quote:

The ten years isn't the problem. The fact that every penny was guaranteed whether he won, lost, or showed up to work...that's what makes that contract so terrible




Ten years is absolutely the fricking problem.

Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
34429 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:26 pm to
You’re spot on, but logic and facts have no home in this thread apparently
Posted by LeGrosChat
Bangladesh
Member since Feb 2016
599 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:27 pm to
[quote]Football is the bread winner! If you don’t get that hire right as an AD, you are done at any school thats considered a football school especially in the SEC!![/

Woody making costly mistakes. Did he use a firm to do background checks on Kelly?
Did he interview people to see how Kelly worked and treated coaches and players? Did he check to see if people respected and liked Kelly?

At $10M per year with a huge buyout... no room for mistakes.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
34429 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:29 pm to
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Football is the bread winner


Another fact no one is arguing

That doesn’t change the fact that Scott didn’t give the extension or buyout.

You’re an idiot.
Posted by ApisMellifera
SWLA
Member since Apr 2023
700 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:29 pm to
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That kind of a golden parachute takes away incentive to do well


You don't become a CFB head coach by being driven entirely by your paycheck. The ego of a head coach wanting to be the best and win drives them.

Kelly failed, but it wasn't because he didn't want to win.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10610 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:32 pm to
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Woodward brought him there gave him a 10 year deal and the other dude gave him the extension.


so Woodward hired a guy that was subsequently extended and given a raise and you think the initial hire was the bad move?

seriously?

the initial hire was apparently successful enough to extend the guy and up his annual pay.

that alone removes the hire from any "worst ever" lists.

with Woody's original deal with Jimbo, his buyout would have been around $26 mil at time he was fired.
with Bjork's deal the buy out was north of $75 mil, nearly triple what it would have been without the extension and raise.

2/3 of that buyout is on Bjork, not Woody.


and lets look at a couple other buyouts out there to:

James Franklin's is pretty close to equal what Kelly is getting.
Mike Norvell's buyout will be a hair under $60 mil (and likely happening this year)
Lincoln Riley's buyout would be north of $80 million this year and he has a worse record at USC than Kelly did here.
Dabo's buyout is north of $60 million (he and Kelly have almost identical records since 2022)


the buyout sucks, I get it.
but that was the market at the time Kelly was signed.
and LSU will (should) always be somewhere on the higher end of the market.

you people act like Woody is the only one dishing them out.
He's not.
He's swimming in the same pool as the rest of the top part of the Power 4.


Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
34429 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:37 pm to
Yea but this clown doesn’t care about the buyout!! You know, the part that ACTUALLY hamstrings the entire process from moving forward

They wErE 10 yEaR cOnTrActs!!!!!!!!
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 4:38 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86465 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 5:18 pm to
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Nutriaitch

Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5150 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:49 pm to
Football had nothing to do with the hiring of coach’s from other sports dumbass.

Stop talking.
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