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re: Scott Rabalais on Sports Today “I’m not sure a Mike Leach / Dave Aranda combo would work

Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:08 pm to
For the record, I'm all about Briles and not Leach.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:10 pm to
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Some of you lack critical thinking skills.



So please enlighten us on how it’s different from going 3 and out
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:11 pm to
Ensminger's play calling the last 2 games is alarming. I thought it was fine up until then. He can be upgraded obviously. Mike Leach is not the answer lol
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:12 pm to
My baseless fan theory is Ensminger decided he was right in the first place, OC isn't for him, so he's going to force Orgeron to making a decision.
Posted by deaux
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:13 pm to
Veer and shoot would absolutely work in the SEC and our defense would benefit from the offense actually putting points on the board
Posted by sunnydaze
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:14 pm to
His play calling has been bad all year
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:15 pm to
Dumbest argument ever made against Spread Offenses.

Team A - Offense goes down the field eating up yards.

Team B - an offense that goes 3 and out every possession.

Which teams defense gets tired first.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:15 pm to
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So please enlighten us on how it’s different from going 3 and out


Is it your belief that nothing exists between air raid and three and out?

In general, both offense and defense figure into a comprehensive game plan together. I'd prefer a ball control offense with about 25-30 passes a game and a stout defense.

The premise in the OP isn't correct because it's not always true, but in general a quick strike offense gives the other guy lots of opportunity.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:16 pm to
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Look at Aranda’s background:

Texas Tech
Houston
Hawaii

Read about his Hawaii rush defenses.

To think his defense wouldn’t benefit from a high powered offense is laughable.


You know, the more I read stuff like this the more I think Aranda is playing the long game.

Im starting to wonder if hes not biding his time waiting for the Captain Orgeron experiment to collapse so he can take the reins. If the rumors are true that he was offered after Less Smiles and he turned it down because he didnt think he was ready, then I think that tells us hes in waiting. There were also rumors that HCIW was part of his deal to stay on board as DC during his last contract negotiation.

Either way, no way in hell a guy who worked with Mike Leach, Art Briles, Ruffin McNeil, Dana Holgornsen, Kliff Kingsbury and Sonny Dyke is going to hire a guy like Ensminger to run his offense. If theres any DC in the country that knows what a potent offense looks like its Dave Aranda.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 1:18 pm
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:16 pm to
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For the record, I'm all about Briles and not Leach.


Was anyone actually clamoring for Leach to come here? Why would he leave the PAC12 to become O's OC? (This is not a rub on you, I'm just wondering why Rabalais even brought it up in the first place.)
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278179 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:17 pm to
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His play calling has been bad all year




no it hasn't. the offense has never been running at 100% but it was much better earlier in the year.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27369 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:17 pm to
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because he’s an abysmal recruiter


He takes doormats like Texas Tech and WSU and makes them into Top 15 teams despite being in places like Lubbock being 5 hours from DFW and Pullman being almost the same from Seattle in the middle of nowhere......the fact he gets 3 stars out there is pretty frickin telling.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:20 pm to
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Scott is an idiot


He does write for the Advocate
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158754 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:23 pm to
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so you want to hire him based on his offense, only to have to change his offense?

is Hal Mumme busy bigJ? why not him?


if you want a coach you need to focus on something that would actually work here



cool so we're going to stick with being intentionally obtuse.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8061 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:24 pm to
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no it hasn't. the offense has never been running at 100% but it was much better earlier in the year.

The first indication of trouble was when Ensminger was throwing the ball in 100º heat down in Florida. Check play-by-play if you don't know what I mean.

The one game LSU really needed to run the ball and hold the clock... E is out there tossing the rock around, unsuccessfully. Disastrous decisions in that one.

I'd like to see a power-spread. Focus on running, but utilize the option to give the offense a more dynamic approach. Get athletes in space. Other teams do it with less talent.

I'd also like to see what's called the "air raid" passing system. Run the ball 60% of the game, utilize the option and have that run 'n shoot vertically stemmed pass game. Simple, effective... difficult to defend.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:25 pm to
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Was anyone actually clamoring for Leach to come here? Why would he leave the PAC12 to become O's OC? (This is not a rub on you, I'm just wondering why Rabalais even brought it up in the first place.)
Have you not read this very board over the last four or five years? There have been quite the number of posts over that time championing Mike Leach to coach the Tigers.

Heck, there was likely even some in 2004 when Darth Saban left.

And in response to other posts in the thread, please tell me how a coach who plans defenses for a living can NOT know a good offensive coordinator when he sees one? Tell me how he does not understand offenses when he has to scheme/script plays and what have you for a living.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:27 pm to
Its almost like yall made up your minds already without actually thinking.

Those "finesse" whipper-snapper offenses got Florida a couple NCs in the 2000's, got Auburn 1 NC and beat Gumps more times than LSU recently, got Moo State to #1 in the polls, Moo State, got ATM a couple wins against Gumps, got Ole Miss a couple wins against the Gumps, Ole Miss, and have the Gumps with their best offense ever and looking unbeatable.

Yall really need to treat your Golden Age Syndrome and retire this machismo. Youre not going to win anything if you keep beating your head into a wall like a stubborn donkey.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 1:28 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66366 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:27 pm to
What do you honk Kliff Kingbury was running at A&M when johnny won a heisman and beat bama?

Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:36 pm to
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FWIW, Houston is last nationally in TOP at 24:38.


And this makes sense because Baby Briles is young and is trying to restore his image and has something to prove so a shite ton of points as an OC does that job, TOP and Ws be damned.

Mike Leach is at a different point in his career. He has nothing to prove and hes the HC not the OC so the wins mean more to him than the offensive numbers. For him the offensive numbers are a means to an end. That 'end' being a good overall record.

For Baby Briles the offensive numbers ARE the end for which he will create the means to reach and parlay that into a head coaching or bigger OC job at a school desperate and starving for offense. Like, oh....I dont know......LSU?
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19264 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:36 pm to
Look at the 2 leagues Leach has done well in.Neither has one team with an SEC-like defense in it. As well,as much as CLM and Coach O have been mocked for their odd personas by the ranters here, have you ever caught Leach's whole pirate thing? He's in the running for COY out there, so he's going to drop & run to be LSU's OC?
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