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re: Scott Rabalais on Sports Today “I’m not sure a Mike Leach / Dave Aranda combo would work
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:41 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:41 pm to lsupride87
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and WSU has a better TOP than LSU,
They also play in the Pac12, not the SEC
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:42 pm to abellsujr
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but this notion that a high powered offense is a bad thing because muh defense is asinine.
It's not necessarily, but there would be tradeoffs in the SEC
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:44 pm to Random LSU Hero
Texas A&M and Clemson are good TOP/Defense case studies
Texas A&M is
#2 in TOP and #37 in Scoring #27 in total Defense #105 in YPP.
Sure th TOP definitely helps a their Defense because opposing teams just have so many less plays to score on them. But they still can’t stop people when they do have the ball so they still give up 22 points a game and they are 6-4. They give up almost 100 more yards in losses but only average 2 more plays per loss.
So TOP is definitely masking a bad defense.
However they only score 24 PPG in conference. Their defensenisnt good enough to make up for their lack of production on offense because you don’t need 10 drives to score enough to beat them.
On the flip side
Clemson is #101 in TOP and #1 in scoring
They play around 10 more snaps on average than Texas A&M. How are they so good?
6th in 3rd Down Conversion
Basically they get themselves off the field.
Texas A&M is
#2 in TOP and #37 in Scoring #27 in total Defense #105 in YPP.
Sure th TOP definitely helps a their Defense because opposing teams just have so many less plays to score on them. But they still can’t stop people when they do have the ball so they still give up 22 points a game and they are 6-4. They give up almost 100 more yards in losses but only average 2 more plays per loss.
So TOP is definitely masking a bad defense.
However they only score 24 PPG in conference. Their defensenisnt good enough to make up for their lack of production on offense because you don’t need 10 drives to score enough to beat them.
On the flip side
Clemson is #101 in TOP and #1 in scoring
They play around 10 more snaps on average than Texas A&M. How are they so good?
6th in 3rd Down Conversion
Basically they get themselves off the field.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:44 pm to Random LSU Hero
There's some truth to that. We need an offense that is effective, but also can control the game and clock. Saban is the master of this.
Big 12 air-raid offenses score too fast and leave their defenses out to dry.
Big 12 air-raid offenses score too fast and leave their defenses out to dry.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:46 pm to jbraua
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Big 12 air-raid offenses score too fast and leave their defenses out to dry.
Certainly there's some middle ground between what LSU is doing now and an air raid offense, correct?
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:46 pm to Powerman
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Washington State dominated time of possession against Colorado last week
yall are retarded
WSU-20th PPG 34th PPGA
COL-63RD PPG & PPGA
WSU-54TH toughest schedule
COL-66TH toughest schedule
real impressive what WSU did
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:47 pm to boxcarbarney
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Certainly there's some middle ground between what LSU is doing now and an air raid offense, correct?
Absolutely.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:48 pm to Random LSU Hero
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high powered offense would have our defense on the field too much
If there were only a proven method of this going on right now that people could point to as an indicator that it could work. Hmmmm....that would make this argument so much easier.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Nope. Not sure how more possessions on defense improves them.
So, scoring more points wouldnt help the defense?
Seriously?
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:49 pm to Random LSU Hero
I can understand the thought process. The control-the-clock style offense does help the defense out with limiting the number of plays, however, if you run out to a 28 point lead, you can rest your starters which would nullify the ill-effects of the increased number of plays.
I would love to see an innovative OC while maintaining our defensive standard.
I would love to see an innovative OC while maintaining our defensive standard.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:49 pm to Random LSU Hero
Guys, of course a Mike Leach / Dave Aranda or K Briles \ Aranda combo wouldn't work. I mean we'd be up by so many points after the 1st quarter, that we'd have to watch the damn 2nd and 3rd stringers in the 2nd half 
Who in the hell wants that
Who in the hell wants that 
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:51 pm to Random LSU Hero
The thought of that is so stupid.
What is the difference with the offense going 3 and out and putting the defense right back on the field?
What is the difference with the offense going 3 and out and putting the defense right back on the field?
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:52 pm to jbraua
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Absolutely.
I know you understand that, and it wasn't the point you were making. I just like to point out, every once in a while, that LSU can have an explosive offense without it being a Big12 air raid. Others don't seem to understand that.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:53 pm to Random LSU Hero
Also, Washington State has a greater Time of Possession per game than we do. They are ranked 14th nationally and we are ranked 30th. The hold the ball for 32:46 per game, we hold it for 31:34 per game.
The huge difference is that they do in that 32:46 and what we do in our 31:34.
Washington State:
Total Offense: 18th (470 ypg)
Yards per play: 36th (6.23 ypp)
Scoring: 17th (37.6 ppg)
1st downs: 9th (25.3/g)
LSU:
Total Offense: 104th (362 ypg)
Yards per play: 108th (5.14 ypp)
Scoring: 86th (26.7 ppg)
1st downs: 86th (20.1/g)
Here's Houston for fun:
Total Offense: 2nd (546 ypg)
Yards per play: 8th (7.05 ypp)
Scoring: 4th (47.8 ppg)
1st downs: 4th (26.4/g)
FWIW, Houston is last nationally in TOP at 24:38.
The huge difference is that they do in that 32:46 and what we do in our 31:34.
Washington State:
Total Offense: 18th (470 ypg)
Yards per play: 36th (6.23 ypp)
Scoring: 17th (37.6 ppg)
1st downs: 9th (25.3/g)
LSU:
Total Offense: 104th (362 ypg)
Yards per play: 108th (5.14 ypp)
Scoring: 86th (26.7 ppg)
1st downs: 86th (20.1/g)
Here's Houston for fun:
Total Offense: 2nd (546 ypg)
Yards per play: 8th (7.05 ypp)
Scoring: 4th (47.8 ppg)
1st downs: 4th (26.4/g)
FWIW, Houston is last nationally in TOP at 24:38.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:54 pm to boxcarbarney
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Certainly there's some middle ground between what LSU is doing now and an air raid offense, correct?
but most fans on here keep acting like we need to have an air raid offense. All this offense really needs is some olinemen and wr's....with bamas oline and wr's (even without tua) our offense would be top 30
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:55 pm to Topwater Trout
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but most fans on here keep acting like we need to have an air raid offense.
Not one person is saying that. If they are, I haven't seen it.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:55 pm to Howyouluhdat
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That form of the spread would never work. You have to be able to run the ball
do you people believe he's incapable of adjusting his offense and would run it EXACTLY the same here?
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:57 pm to BilJ
They are so dumb. Yeah Leach wouldn’t run the ball with John Emery
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:57 pm to Random LSU Hero
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I’m amazed how dumb he is if he doesn’t think a Mike Leach led offense coupled with a Dave Aranda led defense wouldn’t be successful. Especially with the talent, resources, and facilities that LSU and Louisiana possesses. Does anyone agree with this guy?! Wtf is he smoking
I think a Dan Enos offense is the happy medium
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:57 pm to Random LSU Hero
His statement makes zero sense.
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