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re: Remember when posters were roasted after 2019 for saying 2019 was b/c of Burrow?
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:32 am to bubbaprohn
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:32 am to bubbaprohn
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Haha I have to disagree here. He has a blueprint. The problem is he can't complete his blueprint outside of 2019. I agree that 2019 looks to be a fluke lucky chance, but it was still his blueprint (hire good coordinators and let them run the show). His blueprint hasn't changed, it's just apparent now that he can't implement it unless he gets extremely lucky. For that he needs to go.
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Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's not a blueprint
Well its Os blueprint and that's why he needs to go lol
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 11:35 am
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:34 am to bubbaprohn
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2019. I agree that 2019 looks to be a fluke lucky chance, but it was still his blueprint (hire good coordinators and let them run the show). His blueprint hasn't changed, it's just apparent now that he can't implement it
Listen to yourself. We pay a guy 7million dollars to not coach.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:34 am to siliconvalleytiger
Saying "I'm going to hire the best coordinators" is bullshite pandering and is not a plan/blueprint.
His history in coaching hires shows that he has no idea what he wants. That's how we go from O to Canada to E to E/Brady to E/Lineham to Peetz. All different systems and styles
And defensively he bitched about Aranda and then we hire an aggro 4-3 man DC and then a soft 4-3- zone DC
The only theme is that O has no theme
His history in coaching hires shows that he has no idea what he wants. That's how we go from O to Canada to E to E/Brady to E/Lineham to Peetz. All different systems and styles
And defensively he bitched about Aranda and then we hire an aggro 4-3 man DC and then a soft 4-3- zone DC
The only theme is that O has no theme
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:36 am to Adam Banks
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Listen to yourself. We pay a guy 7million dollars to not coach.
You ask O to give details on his preferred style and he'll sound like he's about to throw it to JoJo to sell some hummers.
"We gone be big, strong, and fast"
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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Saying "I'm going to hire the best coordinators" is bullshite pandering and is not a plan/blueprint.
He did exactly the opposite at Ole Miss and changed his approach at LSU. You’re arguing semantics now on what constitutes a blueprint vs not. He had a basic framework and it worked. We can all agree it’s not a good state now.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:38 am to Adam Banks
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Listen to yourself. We pay a guy 7million dollars to not coach.
I understand this. Don't get me wrong, I want O gone. I am not defending him or his job. His "blueprint" sucks, he is not a good head coach and there is no reason he should be coaching at LSU after this year. I'm just playing devils advocate and stating in 2019 he did what he said he would do to get the job. Even though it was a fluke, lucky chance - it still happened.
It's not sustainable and not a valid way to run a D1 program. I think most of us here agree on that lol.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:39 am to White Tiger
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Can anyone enumerate exactly what Ed brings to the overall X&O philosophy/development. Maybe he does, but if so, it is ineffective. Maybe he cannot make a hire because the coaching world views him as a joke. I do not think he is a head coach let alone one who could sustain success at a top-flight program which LSU used to be.
The answer is absolutely nothing. It always has been.
Look at last night when the assistants are running around like crazy talking into their headsets and O never even has his mic down. He does nothing but clap and say let’s go.
It’s absolutely absolutely unsustainable for a HC so be so clearly useless on the sideline. And he’s likely even more detrimental during game week prep as the assistants have to pretend this dude has a role in game planning.
It’s actually not even his fault. He isn’t a bad HC, he ISN’T a HC at all. The only reason he ever got a HC job was because some idiot in Oxford was ate up with the USC dynasty and said hey that guy is from Louisiana! If we hire him I bet he can pull some LA kids to MS. That’s it. Period.
It was a joke then and it was a joke in 2013 when he thought he had a shot at USC and it was a joke in 2016 when the worst AD in history settled for Eddie on the spot because he didn’t care about anything other than getting rid of Miles.
Luckily the Burrows identified LSU as the perfect place for him to transfer, and Busch made that happen through Aranda. Then Carmichael canceled on a presentation that Brady took over and wowed E so he told O to hire him. To his credit, he stayed out of the way in 2019, many coaches wouldn’t have, so he will always deserve credit for that magical run.
TYFYS O, now GTFO
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:42 am to Adam Banks
We had posters saying O’s greatest strength was he did nothing. Not even joking.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:43 am to SlowFlowPro
O is like an extremely stupid child that was fricking around in chemistry class and discovered something by accident. Now he can’t recreate the formula because as I said, he’s extremely dumb and has no idea how he did it.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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However, I still argue Brady wasn't anything special and a ton of modern OCs could have come in, with Burrow (and our WRs) and wrecked.
People tend to forget how many broken plays were turned into huge positives by Burrow.
We weren't a balanced offense
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:51 am to SlowFlowPro
I don’t really get the point of the post. Of course, Burrow was a huge part of the success in 18 and 19, but it’s hard for to say the 19 team would have been bad without him. There was a lot of talent on that team and it seems fair to give O some credit for that. Unfortunately, O also owns 5-5 from last year and whatever happens this year.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:52 am to Powerman
We couldn't run the ball for like the first half of the season
We all freaked out after we beat Texas and it was a very big win for momentum, but Texas ended up being a terrible team.
We all freaked out after we beat Texas and it was a very big win for momentum, but Texas ended up being a terrible team.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:53 am to SlowFlowPro
It’s time for tBinder avi to come back
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:54 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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, but it’s hard for to say the 19 team would have been bad without him
O would not have even been the head coach after 4 or 5 wins in 2018 with Justin McMillan as our QB. In 2019 we would have probably had Justin McMillan as our QB again so I have no idea why you think we could have been good.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:54 am to SlowFlowPro
I remember saying how he would start going downhill once he lost aranda.
Admittedly, i had no idea how steep of a drop that would be
Admittedly, i had no idea how steep of a drop that would be
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:55 am to bubbaprohn
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He made the hires and brought em in (exactly like the binder said he would).
He made one hire, where Engsminger was the one to actually find Brady. The binder is fricking retarded.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:57 am to Adam Banks
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No consistency because he’s completely reliant on coordinators
I actually don't have a problem with that strategy, but
1.) You don't pay your HC what Orgeron is getting paid
2.) You don't hire coordinators with the experience of Jake Peetz. You hire Bill fricking O'Brian.
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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We all freaked out after we beat Texas and it was a very big win for momentum, but Texas ended up being a terrible team.
This goes back to my offseason management comment.
We should have kicked UT all over the field, but we made Ehlinger look like, well, Burrow.
Same with Miami in 18. They were terrible and even that game could have been a bigger blowout if we were stronger out of the gate.
His “blueprint” for the program, especially when it comes to the offseason when a coach can really set the tone for the team and season, is fundamentally unsuccessful.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:58 am to crazy4lsu
When Alleva opened the binder
As soon as he saw Derek’s Bors recipe it was over
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 11:59 am
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