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re: Remember when LSU basketball was fun?

Posted on 2/12/23 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by cmacatl13
the Berry
Member since May 2014
463 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 1:52 pm to
Sure Wade won. But anyone that has any basketball IQ can see Wade Wade atrocious at X and O’s. He would have never won LSU anything of significance. Prime example a well coached Tom Izzo team taking us to the shed. That was all system and X and O’s.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70334 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:54 pm to
“Pinson’s team is 9-15 this season and he hasn’t missed a game.”


Completely irrelevant of course. We were 13-1, ranked 16th before his injury and what Wade said was factual since the injury to Miller then Pinson left us thin at the guard position. I did listen to his interviews, you’re the one misrepresenting what he said.
This post was edited on 2/12/23 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70334 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:56 pm to
Wade didn’t coach that game and just because you don’t know anything about Xs and Os in basketball doesn’t mean Wade wasn’t good with them. He was excellent with it, the numbers and win loss record proves that.
Posted by Recoveringcajun
Banjo country
Member since Aug 2022
2806 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 3:58 pm to
I remember it like it was 35 years ago.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3795 posts
Posted on 2/12/23 at 11:57 pm to
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Completely irrelevant of course. We were 13-1, ranked 16th before his injury and what Wade said was factual since the injury to Miller then Pinson left us thin at the guard position. I did listen to his interviews, you’re the one misrepresenting what he said.


There was nothing to misinterpret. He said it a few times and totally seemed at a loss for solutions. Pinson’s current team record is relevant as it shows he’s not the difference maker he was claimed to have been. So Wade’s team was 13-1 and then Pinson going out made us thin but MM starting from scratch in his first year doesn’t make us thin? Got it. Makes so much sense. It’s Wade’s on fault that he wasted money and scholarships on below average post players that he never put in the game. He failed to recruit enough ball handlers and quite frankly got lucky that he ever got Tremont Waters, Smart, and Pinson to come. And he benefited greatly from Skylar Mays already being at LSU when he got here. Considering we played awful in several games last year I don’t think the production and decision making of a healthy Pinson would have put us over the top. Wade had success here but let’s not act like he is something that he isn’t.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39509 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:02 am to
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Prime example a well coached Tom Izzo team taking us to the shed. That was all system and X and O’s.
talks about how terrible a coach Will Wade was by bringing up a game Will Wade didn’t even coach

What an idiot
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24284 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 4:55 am to
The Mcmen are desperate and their talking points are broken.
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21899 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 6:44 am to
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But anyone that has any basketball IQ can see Wade Wade atrocious at X and O’s


Thanks for outing yourself has having no basketball iq.

Explain how a coach who was atrocious at X and O’s had teams in the top 10 of offensive efficiency.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 7:28 am to
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Wade was 4-4 in his last 8 at LSU and made the NCAA tourney with a team picked to finish 8th in the SEC last season. This years team was also picked 8th in the SEC and your hero McMahon has them threatening the worst conf record in program history. You couldn’t ask for a more clear contrast and comparison yet you idiots keep acting just like Pelini apologist.


The hero comment is stupid. He’s been terrible this year, but acting like Will Wade was the greatest coach ever is ridiculous.

We were picked 8th last year and finished in a 5 way tie for 5th place, woohoo.


The comparison was remember when basketball was fun and we had lost 6 of 8 at that point. It wasn’t exactly fun last year no matter how you want to remember it.

As someone else said there is a group of posters on here that really are acting like high school girls who can’t get over their ex boyfriend.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35527 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 10:12 am to
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We were picked 8th last year and finished in a 5 way tie for 5th place, woohoo.


The comparison was remember when basketball was fun and we had lost 6 of 8 at that point. It wasn’t exactly fun last year no matter how you want to remember it.


"Fun" is relative. LSU may have finished in a 5-way tie for 5th (with Wade's worst SEC record since 2018), but they also reached the NCAA Tournament with the 3rd highest seed the team had had in nearly 20 years. That was unequivocally more "fun" than watching a team who flat out cannot even compete in the SEC right now.

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As someone else said there is a group of posters on here that really are acting like high school girls who can’t get over their ex boyfriend.


Wade wasn't perfect. He certainly wasn't one of the top 10 or so coaches in America. Anyone ignoring his coaching flaws is being unreasonable. BUT, he was winning at the most consistent level since the late 80's/early 90's and was working hard to make LSU basketball very relevant both on campus and in the state.

All of that is gone. The apathy level had quickly sunk back to 2017 levels with McMahon's performance this season. And with no imminent coaching change on the horizon, no headliner recruiting class, and very little confidence he could get much out of a decent collection of new players even if he got them, there is just not much you can look towards to find optimism.

Wade is gone and he's not coming back. Continuing to wallow in self-loathing about year's past does nothing. Still, to somehow argue (not you personally) this current situation is better is absurd. This is the bleakest I can remember feeling about LSU basketball in quite a while because I'm struggling to find reasons to think things, under the current HC, will get significantly better anytime soon.
Posted by mikedatyger
Orlandeaux, FL
Member since Jun 2005
4418 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:18 pm to
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Basketball was only ever fun and meaningful under Dale

I was there. No, it wasn't.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70334 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:52 pm to
Everything you said in that post is false and borderline insane. You’re living in a delusional fantasy world where you ignore all data and fact, substituting it with copium.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20120 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:54 pm to
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Basketball was only ever fun and meaningful under Dale
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I was there. No, it wasn't.
maybe you're remembering the later Dale years.

But from the late 70s - early 80s, LSU basketball was absolutely fun and meaningful. I was there for that.
Sellouts, a lot of talented players, and they played hard on both ends of the floor. The Assembly Center was very, very loud.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70334 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:00 pm to
You keep saying we lost 6 of our last 8 under Wade and that’s simply not true. You dismiss the fact that we finished 5th after being predicted 8th compared to finishing with likely the worst record in program history after the same prediction this season as if that’s not a huge contrast. And yes we finished 5th, you don’t get a 6 seed nationally if you’re at the bottom of a 5 way tie for 5th as you suggest. 3 of those 5 didn’t make the tourney. The irony and projection you display by labeling people who simply provide the actual data in response to your fit throwing dishonesty is unbelievable. If you ever told the truth about anything these arguments wouldn’t happen.
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 2:01 pm
Posted by PNG Futbol
Member since Aug 2022
618 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:16 pm to
It's not that we can't get over our past boy/girl friend. It is that our current one is abusing us, and we are locked into that one by an absurdly long contract with a huge buyout.

Please, at least get your metaphors correct. The Mcmaniacs lack in reading comprehension as well as being delusional positive about our current situation.
Posted by lovinLSU
lafayette
Member since Nov 2007
14757 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:42 pm to
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early 80s, LSU basketball was absolutely fun and meaningful. I was there for that. Sellouts, a lot of talented players, and they played hard on both ends of the floor. The Assembly Center was very, very loud.
… I was there and remember all this and then some…
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
6658 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 2:55 pm to
When Shaq, Stanley and CJ played
Posted by mikedatyger
Orlandeaux, FL
Member since Jun 2005
4418 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 3:49 pm to
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But from the late 70s - early 80s, LSU basketball was absolutely fun and meaningful

From 1979-83 LSU was 90-38. Why did it seem so much worse?
Was never a Daddy Dale fan, so maybe a bias.
I still think his best coaching job ever was the 1987 team that reached the final four vs Indiana. Team of "nobodies" that just balled it.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14671 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 3:57 pm to
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basically blamed it on Pinson being out. Imagine a whole season hinging on one player if the team falls apart.


BS, there were three starters injured at different times. Murray was one of them.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
47694 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 3:57 pm to
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1987 team that reached the final four vs Indiana
Elite Eight.

The previous season was the 11 seed that made the Final Four.
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