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re: Prudent to Stay Out of the Coaching Carousel this Year
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:10 am to bulletprooftiger
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:10 am to bulletprooftiger
Lane kiffin, Dan lanning, there are others but I'm not going to do your research for you. All the best cuts of meat will be taken off the table
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:19 am to Dotarian
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If we do that, though, we still need to back up the Brinks truck to keep Baker.
Baker is extremely well paid. He’s only leaving for a HC gig.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:25 am to Hampton
No, you just can't answer the questions.
Regarding Kiffin, last year was supposed to be his year. Easy schedule and #1 portal class. Couldn't get it done. What is he going to do different at LSU?
Regarding Lanning, there is no reason to consider him available. If LSU were to pay him enough to make him available, it just ends up with another Kelly contract.
And, since neither of those guys is "on the table," your argument is nonsense. Why not Ryan Day, Kyle Shanahan, or Andy Reid?
The money needs to be spent on the roster, not on a big name coach. I don't know what is so hard to understand about that.
Regarding Kiffin, last year was supposed to be his year. Easy schedule and #1 portal class. Couldn't get it done. What is he going to do different at LSU?
Regarding Lanning, there is no reason to consider him available. If LSU were to pay him enough to make him available, it just ends up with another Kelly contract.
And, since neither of those guys is "on the table," your argument is nonsense. Why not Ryan Day, Kyle Shanahan, or Andy Reid?
The money needs to be spent on the roster, not on a big name coach. I don't know what is so hard to understand about that.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:26 am to bulletprooftiger
In other words, prepare to not give a shite about LSU football for two more years, similar to the end of Orgeron's tenure.
Gotta love the Scott Woodward experience...reduced to relevancy in baseball and women's basketball only.
Gotta love the Scott Woodward experience...reduced to relevancy in baseball and women's basketball only.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:17 pm to Hampton
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Lane kiffin, Dan lanning, there are others but I'm not going to do your research for you. All the best cuts of meat will be taken off the table
That's a non-answer. I don't see a reason Lanning would leave Oregon and the Big 10 to come to LSU and the SEC. He's got a much easier path to the playoffs at OR than he would have at LSU. In addition, he's got access to Phil Knight and the Nike money at OR. I've not heard of LSU having similar big money that's willing to pay like Knight does.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:40 pm to GasMan
Go get a former pro coach...Doug Pederson is a good candidate
Posted on 10/22/25 at 12:52 pm to bulletprooftiger
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Given these conditions it is better to let Florida and Penn State cripple themselves, or cripple Ole Miss, with stupid and expensive coaching contracts, just as LSU is currently crippled. Smart money would be spent on an actual coach and not a coaching name.
I agree. There are some big names open and looking for new coaches, namely:
Penn State
Florida
Arkansas
UCLA
V Tech
Ok State
Penn State firing forced Indiana to go all in on their guy. I'm sure Ole Miss will do the same. Prudent advice is to stay out of this bidding war cycle and give our guy's buyout another year reduction.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:07 pm to bulletprooftiger
I guess you're one of those that may not have forethought. You will see as these new coaches that the other teams get proceed to kick Brian Kelly's arse.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:08 pm to bulletprooftiger
I agree, but I would probably at least make it known through coaching circles that a change is possible and that there is interest in someone like Lane for a couple of reasons.
1. Lane: Drive up the price for either Ole Miss or Florida. Lock them into an expensive deal
2. Kelly: Makes it clear to him he’s on thin ice
I don’t expect a change, but there is some strategic value in suggesting one might be coming.
1. Lane: Drive up the price for either Ole Miss or Florida. Lock them into an expensive deal
2. Kelly: Makes it clear to him he’s on thin ice
I don’t expect a change, but there is some strategic value in suggesting one might be coming.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:16 pm to Hampton
Yeah. Florida has demonstrated great forethought in burning through coaches.
Muschamp was the head coach in waiting at Texas and everybody’s target when he went to UF. Bombed.
McElwain was a national championship coordinator under Saban who got head coaching experience as CSU. Bombed.
Mullen was a successful SEC coach who brought a bottom dweller to relevance. Bombed.
Napier. Well that was just stupid.
Point being, nailing a coaching hire is difficult under perfect circumstances. It is impossible in the current market. Why tie LSU to a new 10 year contract when LSU could buy players without contracts for the same money?
Muschamp was the head coach in waiting at Texas and everybody’s target when he went to UF. Bombed.
McElwain was a national championship coordinator under Saban who got head coaching experience as CSU. Bombed.
Mullen was a successful SEC coach who brought a bottom dweller to relevance. Bombed.
Napier. Well that was just stupid.
Point being, nailing a coaching hire is difficult under perfect circumstances. It is impossible in the current market. Why tie LSU to a new 10 year contract when LSU could buy players without contracts for the same money?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:28 pm to SOL2
Unless youre Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon and a few others that have great coaches and put together solid teams year after year. LSU has never been a perennial winner. They have good years then a great year every 5-7 years. Its just hard to watch this team. Everything seems so hard on offense. There have been other 7-5 or 8-4 teams that were alot more competitive.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:33 pm to bulletprooftiger
We spent the most on NIL players this season. How's that working out? If you repeat the same thing, it's likely the same thing is going to happen.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:33 pm to bulletprooftiger
Adapting yearly and to what kind of players you have is important- not just running an offense just because- but running your strengths- same on defense.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:39 pm to Houtexlandscape
I said it with Miles and I’ll say it with Kelly. The LEAST expensive day to get rid of Kelly is today. It will cost us more in more ways to wait. If Scott Woodward doesn’t understand this concept then we are in deep trouble.
Once a head football coach at 50+ years is exposed it’s over. We best understand this.
Once a head football coach at 50+ years is exposed it’s over. We best understand this.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:40 pm to bulletprooftiger
On some level can we agree that BK saved the program from complete disaster?
2019 15-0
2020 5-5
2021 6-7
2022 10-4 SECW
2023 10-3
2024 9-4
2019 15-0
2020 5-5
2021 6-7
2022 10-4 SECW
2023 10-3
2024 9-4
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:45 pm to TheDeathValley
Covid, TDS, wokeness and BLM did O in more than anything.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:50 pm to bulletprooftiger
This is all fine and dandy until the coach himself is fully checked out and doesn't care. I don't think BK is fully checked out but by his actions he seems to care less than he did at ND. You can easily see that by the fact he's less hands-on than he was at ND. For example, he pulled PCing duties from Sloan last year, offense improves, then he just hands it back knowing full well he's not capable. At ND he would've fired him on the spot and completely revoked his PCing duties permanently. He just seems to care less here and relies even more on his coordinators than he did at ND.
If a coach is checked out and burned out you have no choice but to be a forced hand into firing him. You will lose more money over the years by him creating a stagnant product that excites nobody than to just bite the bullet immediately. If LSU feels this way, make no mistake they will fire him on the spot even if it hurts them. Reality of the situation is in recent history LSU is not very good. You're a middle tier SEC school at best with 1 successful season in 10 years.
If a coach is checked out and burned out you have no choice but to be a forced hand into firing him. You will lose more money over the years by him creating a stagnant product that excites nobody than to just bite the bullet immediately. If LSU feels this way, make no mistake they will fire him on the spot even if it hurts them. Reality of the situation is in recent history LSU is not very good. You're a middle tier SEC school at best with 1 successful season in 10 years.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:08 pm to bulletprooftiger
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The responsibilities of the "college" head coach are different than they were even five years ago
Exactly why Saban retired. People think he would be interested in the LSU job if it came open but no way Saban gets back in to coaching in this era of college football.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:23 pm to SmoothBox
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Sumrall? Jesus
We could do a lot worse.
I get that he's flawed but I think he has tremendous upside as an "up and comer" and I'm pretty sure folks in CFB agree.
It's moot though because he's getting a big boy job this offseason and won't be available next cycle. My guess is Auburn.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 5:12 pm to dovehunter
He was a historically bad coach at Ole Miss. His losing percentage might never be topped.
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