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Playoff Committee Members
Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:02 am
Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:02 am
Jeff Long (CHAIR), Vice Chancellor And Director Of Athletics, University Of Arkansas-Fayetteville
Barry Alvarez, Director Of Athletics, University Of Wisconsin-Madison
LT Gen. Mike Gould (Ret.), Former Superintendent Of The United States Air Force Academy
Kirby Hocutt, Director Of Athletics, Texas Tech University
Tom Jernstedt, Former NCAA Executive Vice President
Bobby Johnson, Former Head Coach, Vanderbilt University
Tom Osborne, Former Head Coach And Director Of Athletics, University Of Nebraska-Lincoln
Dan Radakovich, Director Of Athletics, Clemson University
Condoleeza Rice, Stanford University Professor, Former Stanford Provost And Former United States Secretary Of State
Mike Tranghese, Former Commissioner, Big East Conference
Steve Wieberg, Former College Football Reporter, USA Today
Tyrone Willingham, Former Head Coach Of Three FBS Institutions
IMO, none of the committee members should have a full time job and also be on this committee. How does one have a full time job and be able to devote enough time into analyzing enough football to make an informed decision about who is the best of the best?
I'm curious how many games they actually watch each week.
Barry Alvarez, Director Of Athletics, University Of Wisconsin-Madison
LT Gen. Mike Gould (Ret.), Former Superintendent Of The United States Air Force Academy
Kirby Hocutt, Director Of Athletics, Texas Tech University
Tom Jernstedt, Former NCAA Executive Vice President
Bobby Johnson, Former Head Coach, Vanderbilt University
Tom Osborne, Former Head Coach And Director Of Athletics, University Of Nebraska-Lincoln
Dan Radakovich, Director Of Athletics, Clemson University
Condoleeza Rice, Stanford University Professor, Former Stanford Provost And Former United States Secretary Of State
Mike Tranghese, Former Commissioner, Big East Conference
Steve Wieberg, Former College Football Reporter, USA Today
Tyrone Willingham, Former Head Coach Of Three FBS Institutions
IMO, none of the committee members should have a full time job and also be on this committee. How does one have a full time job and be able to devote enough time into analyzing enough football to make an informed decision about who is the best of the best?
I'm curious how many games they actually watch each week.
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Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:05 am to LSU Tigerhead
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I'm curious how many games they actually watch each week.
They really only need to watch a handful of games every week IMO
Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:10 am to LSU Tigerhead
Each member is given a group of teams to watch. I'm not sure exactly how it is divided but the point is, no single member has to watch every game.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:11 am to LSU Tigerhead
The bold/underline functions exist for a reason.
And really, you expect all these people to not earn a living?
And really, you expect all these people to not earn a living?
Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:29 am to LSU Tigerhead
Condoleeza Rice?
Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:37 am to LSU Tigerhead
I agree with you. I would much rather it be just the media (people who are paid to watch and give their opinions on sports) who vote on it. The media can still have conflicts of interest (e.g. voting for teams that whose participation in the championship would be more lucrative) but that's not as bad as a direct conflict of interest that some of these people have.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:57 am to LSU Tigerhead
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Dan Radakovich, Director Of Athletics, Clemson University
On a side note (and not trying to make this a Joe Alleva thread), but really wish we had promoted Dan when we had the chance to keep him at LSU.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:00 am to LSU Tigerhead
I met Bobby Johnson in the mid 2000's. Nice guy.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:04 am to LSU Tigerhead
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Condoleeza Rice
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:06 am to LSU Tigerhead
No one should be on that committee while working for a University that may make the playoffs.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:31 am to LSU Tigerhead
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Jeff Long (CHAIR), Vice Chancellor And Director Of Athletics, University Of Arkansas-Fayetteville
Isn't that Les's boy? Hooks him up with raises and extensions by making a "run" at him every couple of years?
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:48 am to Cadello
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No one should be on that committee while working for a University that may make the playoffs
They have to "recuse" themselves from the discussion when their school is involved.
I'm curious as to why anyone thinks this system is any better than the previous one. It includes more teams, but they could have done that with the BCS.
I just think it's silly that when the BCS was created, it was largely due to the sentiment that people shouldn't chose who the champion was. But ever since 2003-04, people have been gradually regaining the influence to the point that we're now back in the same situation as we were prior to the BCS.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:51 am to Wayne Campbell
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I'm curious as to why anyone thinks this system is any better than the previous one. It includes more teams, but they could have done that with the BCS.
Because this will ensure "fairness" in much the same way that affirmative action does. You can interpret "fairness" in whatever way you want, but I interpret it as we need to make sure that the other P5 conferences are also represented in the postseason.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:00 am to Wayne Campbell
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I just think it's silly that when the BCS was created, it was largely due to the sentiment that people shouldn't chose who the champion was. But ever since 2003-04, people have been gradually regaining the influence to the point that we're now back in the same situation as we were prior to the BCS.
Surely you're not serious. The prior system before the BCS was automatic conference/bowl tie-ins where the top teams rarely played each other. And the "national champion" was decided by silly voter polls, which are horribly flawed.
The BCS was a little better because it at least guaranteed the "top" two teams would actually play. The BCS formula was still too heavily driven by voter polls (2/3, I believe). Computer rankings (1/3 of the BCS formula) are ok in theory, but humans program the computers with the criteria they want.
Expanding to 4 teams and using a committee to decide seems much better to me (although I'd much prefer an 8 team playoff). It's similar to the March Madness selection committee, which generally does a good job and is thorough and takes their job seriously.
Media polls are a joke, and people fill those things out in 5 minutes with very little thought or justification. Coaches' polls are even worse.
At least the committee has some semblance of seriousness of purpose and spends a lot of time analyzing and discussing. I'll take this current process over the BCS, or the prior poll system, any day of the week.
This post was edited on 11/2/15 at 10:02 am
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:00 am to Rougarou13
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Condoleeza Rice?
Very intelligent woman, extremely well versed in and loves football. She's the daughter of a coach and has been bandied about as a potential replacement for Goodell. Personally, I like the choice.
Article about her dad being a coach
Why Condoleezza Rice was a natural choice for CFP committee
ETA: A couple of statements she makes that sound like ranters talking from the second article:
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Stanford coach David Shaw has heard the warning from Rice more than once.
"If she ever sees us play a prevent defense," he said, "she's going to be in my office. She hates prevent defense. She wants to be aggressive." (Maybe Stanford should think about blitzing more.)
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The longtime friends were chatting one day early in Shaw's career, when Rice somehow steered the conversation toward Stanford's tight ends. She wanted to know how Shaw was going to use former standouts Coby Fleener, Zach Ertz and Toilolo.
"It wasn't a cursory conversation," Shaw said. "It was about taking over the middle of the field, watching Coby Fleener go up the seams, and Toilolo being so big and being able to run 10- to 12-yard cross routes and being able to find the quarterback because of his size, and Zach Ertz's knack in the red zone to double move. These are conversations you have with football coaches, not with secretaries of state."
This post was edited on 11/2/15 at 10:06 am
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:25 am to atltiger6487
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Computer rankings (1/3 of the BCS formula) are ok in theory, but humans program the computers with the criteria they want.
And once the formula was figured out for a few of the computer formulas, teams started adjusting their schedules & running up scores against weaker opponents to fudge the numbers.
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At least the committee has some semblance of seriousness of purpose and spends a lot of time analyzing and discussing.
This!
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:27 am to LSU Tigerhead
Any idea if this the same group as last year? I remember Archie was on it until he had to step down for personal reasons and I recognize a couple of the same names.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:29 am to LSU Tigerhead
This is a farce, they didn't even come up with a plan to have alternates in case people had to drop out. Bring back the bcs.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:34 am to atltiger6487
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At least the committee has some semblance of seriousness of purpose and spends a lot of time analyzing and discussing. I'll take this current process over the BCS, or the prior poll system, any day of the week.
You don't think they are influenced by pre season polls? They watch the games like we do and see the rankings. They all also have ties to teams. This is not better than the bcs. In fact remember when usc got left out? They went to scheduling harder ooc games and went from playing 11 games to 12. They did the exact opposite of what you said.
These people have full time jobs. I barely have enough time to watch 1 football game a week, how are these people supposed to watch every team play? They don't, its a freaking joke.
This post was edited on 11/2/15 at 10:36 am
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