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re: Per Delly this morning on OTB: Taylor and his family both lied to LSU staff
Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:22 pm to VolTiger13
Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:22 pm to VolTiger13
quote:he shouldn’t
be shocked if he ever stops foot on campus again
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:28 pm to justice
Auburn Lock
Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:39 pm to TchPowDog
Kansas JUCO would be a cruel prison.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 5:51 pm to iknowmorethanyou
Hard to believe at least a few people didn't pull him aside and tell him that he has a great chance to go far and don't frick it up...…..I guess a lot of them have a head that's too hard.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:45 pm to The Pirate King
LSU staff didnt talk to the coaches, school admin?
Sloppy
Sloppy
Posted on 8/13/18 at 6:59 pm to Alt26
quote:
It's certainly is not a good look that the kid was arrested and I understand (and agree with) LSU suspending him. However, I still believe in innocent until proven guilty and I'm not exactly in favor of potentially ruining a kid's life before he's even been convicted of a crime. If the kid did it, then he SHOULD suffer the consequences. But we live in a society who likes to find people GUILTY first, then make them prove their innocence. That's not how our legal system works
Finally someone with some freaking sense around here!!!! Thanks for bringing intelligence to the conversation something lacking from a few posters on this board. Let the facts come out in the case, there will be plenty enough time after that to whatever the appropriate steps are necessary after the fact.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 7:40 pm to Alt26
quote:
But we live in a society who likes to find people GUILTY first, then make them prove their innocence. That's not how our legal system works
This has nothing to do with the legs, system. He lied, which resulted in another more deserving student athlete losing out on an LSU scholly. That's the kid that was totally effed over by all this
Posted on 8/13/18 at 7:44 pm to Dudebro2
quote:he and his family lied to coaches regarding his arrest. frick him for not manning up and telling the coaches about the incident.
Finally someone with some freaking sense around here!!!! Thanks for bringing intelligence to the conversation something lacking from a few posters on this board. Let the facts come out in the case, there will be plenty enough time after that to whatever the appropriate steps are necessary after the fact.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 7:51 pm to nicholastiger
If he was on Bama's two deep right now, the charge would be reduced to a "careless operation" with a small fine. End of story.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:03 pm to The Pirate King
And for that reason he will not return as part of the team. He doesn’t deserve to be associated in any way to LSU.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 9:18 pm to The Pirate King
This is a terrible situation but we have to put this under the carpet like bama does. We can’t afford to lose quality players
Posted on 8/13/18 at 9:33 pm to RobbBobb
quote:
This has nothing to do with the legs, system. He lied, which resulted in another more deserving student athlete losing out on an LSU scholly. That's the kid that was totally effed over by all this
Can you explain what you mean by this?
Posted on 8/13/18 at 9:36 pm to The Pirate King
But I was told LSU was covering it up!!
Posted on 8/13/18 at 9:38 pm to The Pirate King
Taylor will be on next year's cast of Last Chance U.
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:13 pm to nicholastiger
With Fulton still sitting
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:56 am to The Pirate King
“Lied to the staff” would imply that they heard of his troubles earlier than last week.
I tend to believe they were in the dark vs. previously deceived.
I tend to believe they were in the dark vs. previously deceived.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 1:01 am
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:35 am to Alt26
quote:"innocent until proven guilty" is only inside of a courtroom. In the real world, we make decisions with the data we have and can't wait months or years for a trial to conclude.
However, I still believe in innocent until proven guilty and I'm not exactly in favor of potentially ruining a kid's life before he's even been convicted of a crime.
If one of our players was accused of robbing a bank and killing 5 people, would you be arguing that he's "innocent until proven guilty" and should be kept on the team until he's "proven guilty" (that assumes he's out on bail, which I know is absurd, but it's just a hypothetical)?
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 8:37 am
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:08 am to atltiger6487
quote:
"innocent until proven guilty" is only inside of a courtroom. In the real world, we make decisions with the data we have and can't wait months or years for a trial to conclude.
Serious question. Why "can't" LSU wait? If he plays and then is later convicted is that a violation of NCAA rules? Would LSU be subject to NCAA sanctions for doing so?
quote:
If one of our players was accused of robbing a bank and killing 5 people, would you be arguing that he's "innocent until proven guilty" and should be kept on the team until he's "proven guilty" (that assumes he's out on bail, which I know is absurd, but it's just a hypothetical)?
Accused does not equal guilty. What if a player was ACCUSED of violently raping a woman. He's arrested, but it later turns out he didn't do it. The alleged victim lied, or it wasn't him, etc? Would you be in favor of dismissing a kid from college for no crime whatsoever?
For the record, I'm on board with a suspension until the situation can be resolved OR more investigation takes place. I just don't agree with a blanket policy advocated by some that arrest = automatic dismissal from school.
At 20 years old I was in a bar one night standing on the patio. Next thing I know, I am tackled by two bouncers, dragged out of the bar and thrown to a police officer. The officer then slams me against the hood of his car, cuffs me, then throws me in the back seat and says "you stupid frick! You finally got caught doing stupid shite!" I literally had no idea what I had done to warrant being thrown out of the bar, let alone arrested.
It turned out that completely unbeknownst to me, someone ripped a neon light sign off the wall and threw it over the patio fence. When the bouncers saw it and came running to the patio the guy who did it pointed them towards me. After 6 months in the legal system, including watching the surveillance tape from the night, it was realized that I had nothing whatsoever to do with the incident and all pending charges were dropped.
But what if my school had a blanket policy of arrest = dismissal? I would have lost a scholarship and the opportunity to receive a free education for a crime I didn't commit. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't think such a harsh policy is justified.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:18 am to Alt26
quote:you're misstating my post. I merely said that a school can't have a blanket policy of waiting until conviction to suspend or kick them off the team.
But what if my school had a blanket policy of arrest = dismissal? I would have lost a scholarship and the opportunity to receive a free education for a crime I didn't commit. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't think such a harsh policy is justified.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:20 am to The Pirate King
2020 Starting ILB for Auburn after his stint in JUCO next year.
buh bye
buh bye
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