On the bright side, we really kind of dodged a bullet.

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thank god we didn't get stuck with Tom Herman or Jimbo.

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Meh. Either one of them could have won a championship at LSU.

Short List (in no order):

Chris Petersen
Billy Napier
Dave Aranda
Luke Fickell
PJ Fleck
Bill O'Brien

I think herman would have still brought in burrow who he initially recruited. Herman is a goober but he also never had a losing season in his life. Maybe 2019 doesn't happen with herm, but I bet 2020 or 2021 don't either

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Thankful for O to pull in joe burrow and win that natty. But it’s time to go now

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O didn't do shite.

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Because he’s Herman 2.0.

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So a new and improved version of Herman? Is that a bad thing?

Texas A&M hasn't won a NC in over 80 years. Hell, they haven't even won a conference championship in over 30 years.

In the last 50 years Texas has won exactly ONE national championship. They haven't had a great season since 2009...well before Herman arrived.

On the flip side, LSU has had THREE (3) different HCs win National Championships in just the last 20 years. Combined, the 3 had won a grand total of ONE (1) conference championship (Toledo - 1990) prior to taking the LSU job.

Point being, whose to say they would not have been great at LSU? History seems to suggest they would have. On the other hand, 50+ years of history also suggest it is unlikely any HC would/will win anything of note at the Texas schools.

If O had went to Texas or A&M how would that have looked? We’d be saying we dodged a bullet there as well.

I do agree it all worked out and hopefully we get a better coach moving forward.

True. There's nothing wrong with giving Orgeron credit for 2019 and thinking his time at LSU needs to come to an end.

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You may not like him or may have never liked him but the guy had enough sense to realize that the offense had to be changed in order to compete with Bama and he brought in Joe Brady and won the natl title.

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O knew that the LSU HC job was his LAST, best, and ONLY shot at ever getting a P5 HC job again. So from the SECOND he was named the interim HC he began a PR campaign aimed at accomplishing that goal. Why was Les fired? People the fans/admiration were sick of him REFUSING to change the offense. So O fired Cameron to quickly gain favor among the masses.

A huge part of his pitch to get the LSU job was promising a package deal with Kiffin as OC. It fell through and he had to scramble to find a "name" to deliever on his promise to bring about a great offense. He hired a hot name he knew nothing about, Canada. That relationship fell apart in three games.

So Ed, "the guy (who) had enough sense to realize that the offense had to be changed in order to compete with Bama" named a guy to be his next OC who: (1) led LSU to zero points against Alabama in 2016; (2) was a part of the offensive staff that put the terrible offenses on the field that got the last HC fired; (3) didn't even want the job; and (4) had not been an OC in well over a decade. That shrewd decision led to LSU scoring exactly ZERO points again vs. Alabama.

It was ENSMINGER who wanted another coach to share the burden of being OC with. It was ENSMINGER who was humble enough to realize he couldn't get it done vs. Alabama. It was ENSMINGER who recognized the analyst from the Saints might have some good ideas to add to the offensive approach. And it was ENSMINGER who happily allowed a first time coach to take over a large role in planning and calling the offense in 2019.

Orgeron whiffed on BOTH of his first two OC hires. He was just fortunate that the second guy he hired had no ego whatsoever and really wanted someone to help him change the offense.