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Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:25 pm to Gus007
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Didn't we get beat bad by a Maguire coached Marquette team. The only tradition LSU basketball had in those days was built Brown.
We lost in the semis. Pete got all drunken up in NYC. At least that was the rumor. Apple Sanders had to carry him back to his room they said.
The Maravich phenomena energized the community. Basketball interest exploded. The impetus for the Assembly Center was from the Pistol.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:44 pm to LSUBogeyMan
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Chris Jackson was the biggest star for me and my friends. You young bucks should YouTube some highlights of him.
Me too. Still the best college PG that’s ever played IMO. Man the PMAC was unbelievable back then!!
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:50 pm to doubleb
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Dale was caught and LSU was put on probation.
Dale was cleared by the NCAA. Somebody else left the breadcrumbs
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:59 pm to drizztiger
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But please explain the levels of cheating. And when it’s good or bad. Or acceptable.
I need to know honestly.
That's a nuanced answer and I guess I should have stated that was where he messed up in terms of getting fired. In terms of what is acceptable, that is an individual question for each person.
The NCAA would say none is acceptable while not really looking too hard for it.
Pragmatically, to most fans, the answer is it is acceptable when not getting caught.
College basketball recruiting is just a dirty game, unfortunately. With a lot of power brokers. I would prefer no cheating. No program that does really well now is not cheating, at least not before NIL, and probably not now.
Does that make sense? Not sure I've been explaining myself well lately.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:08 pm to John cocktoasten
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A few golf claps at halftime from a few loyalists. He Probably enjoyed a cigar on the porch with JA reminiscing about WW firing and the good ol days when he did things with integrity; honor and class. Oh, and righteousness… always righteousness for Dale.
Dale Brown was good for LSU basketball but he lost focus and his ego, well you know!
he could never win the big games and was not a great coach even though he had quality athletes.
many assistant coaches were a big help to the team.
glad when he got cut.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:16 pm to mdomingue
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Dale was cleared by the NCAA. Somebody else left the breadcrumbs
LSU was put on probation. Dale’s friend took the fall as did his assistant.
Don’t act as if Dale didn’t know what was going on because he was in complete control. He did what he had to do to compete with Kentucky and the others. It’s how big time hoops works.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:18 pm to ChEgrad
I was around 20 years old when I came home from college. I forget what season it was but I drove to the Baton Rouge airport one evening and there was about 2,000 fans waiting on the tarmac to greet Dale Brown and his players. They were going to the final four iirc ?
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:38 pm to s2
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he could never win the big games and was not a great coach even though he had quality athletes.
He didn't win the national championship and underachieved with CJ, Shaq and co., but he won many big games (Georgetown in the Dome in front of one of the biggest crowds to ever see any basketball game, UNLV when they were phenomenal, Loyola Marymount in one of the best NCAA games ever and numerous big tournament upsets on his way to the Final Four just to name some). It was time for him to go when he did, but he won a lot of big ones.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:45 pm to drizztiger
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That imprint on LSU Basketball - and me - is now tarnished by his ego
Yet no one says anything bad about Will Wade's ego with how he basically dared the NCAA to come at him.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 6:15 pm to MMauler
At least they made the final 4
Posted on 1/22/23 at 6:31 pm to doubleb
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Don’t act as if Dale didn’t know what was going on because he was in complete control. He did what he had to do to compete with Kentucky and the others. It’s how big time hoops works.
I never suggested otherwise. This is what WW did wrong in the context of what gets you skewered by the NCAA. The program may still get in trouble, but the HC has some insulation from the charges.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:33 pm to drizztiger
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I have such mixed thoughts about Daddy Dale.
He’s a real life Elmer Gantry
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:51 pm to doubleb
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We finished second in the SEC Pete’s senior year. We had a good team and received an NIT bid. We were not terrible then
You are correct sir, i was wrong to call that year terrible! I remember his time here and I loved it! But we were barely .500 in his first two years, and 2-2 in that only post season apperance. And we disappeared from the national scene as soon as he left.
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 1/22/23 at 8:15 pm to Keltic Tiger
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Dale did not even win the SEC with Shaq, Stanley Roberts, Chris Jackson & Vernal Singleton
No, he won it a year or two later without Stanley or Chris.
You people are fricking pathetic
Posted on 1/22/23 at 8:22 pm to LSU Coyote
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Until then, Les Miles field.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 8:24 pm to Klingler7
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They were going to the final four iirc ?
81 or 86
Posted on 1/22/23 at 8:39 pm to mdomingue
Dale did some remarkable things with LSU basketball-- that 4 season stretch from 1977-78 to 1980-81 remains the most successful such period in LSU basketball history. And LSU fans LOVED it-- all the biggest crowds ever in the P-MAC occurred then.
Something changed in Dale around 1990-- his team was awash in talent, but he micromanaged games too much. To me the greatest disappointment came when he had Shaq for three seasons and the team never got past the second round of the NCAA tournament. Ridiculous, when you think about it. Those were potentially great teams that never jelled.
Something changed in Dale around 1990-- his team was awash in talent, but he micromanaged games too much. To me the greatest disappointment came when he had Shaq for three seasons and the team never got past the second round of the NCAA tournament. Ridiculous, when you think about it. Those were potentially great teams that never jelled.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 9:01 pm to evansky
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You are correct sir, i was wrong to call that year terrible! I remember his time here and I loved it! But we were barely .500 in his first two years, and 2-2 in that only post season apperance. And we disappeared from the national scene as soon as he left.
No question when Pete left, Press hadn’t built anything. We were going nowhere although we did manage a huge win in the AC over Kentucky his last year and a winning SEC record the year after Pete left.
Btw, Dale didn’t have a winning SEC record until his sixth season. He was 500 in year one and fell off after that.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 9:04 pm to tarzana
Smoke, at the time Skip's assistant, used to tell the story when Dale called him up one time & told him that he, Dale, had a notebook full of his NCAA recruiting violations & threatened to turn him in .Not for any specific reason, just Dale's way of trying to intimidate him. Dale has long been considered an extremely vengeful person, professionally & personally. Dale was mocked once by the Tulane HC & Dale's hate was vicious for years later.
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