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Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:00 pm to Robbytiger
quote:well that's just flat wrong.
Recruiting class rankings put too much weight on high profile athletes...RBs, WRs, safeties etc....
And anybody who even remotely follows recruiting knows it.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:19 pm to TheLoneOFan
All answers except the last "He Gone"
Last question... a- Get gumbo recipes b. Depends on how drunk he is.
Last question... a- Get gumbo recipes b. Depends on how drunk he is.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:48 pm to TheLoneOFan
quote:
QB's not a critical this year - have you heard of Mr. Brennan and Mr. Narcisse
You are not recruiting 2018 class QB's to start this year jackass. It's for depth and for future years. You take a QB in every class. No if's and's or but's about it. Same goes for RB's and CB's
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:48 pm to Tiger1988
quote:
Member since Oct 2017
all we need to know.
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says the member since 2016...
Member since Oct 2017
all we need to know.
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says the member since 2016...
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:50 pm to Howyouluhdat
You are not recruiting 2018 QB's to start this year jackass. It's for depth. Same goes for RB's and CB's
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You do understand that there is a limited number of slots available. We lost to Troy because of lack of depth on the Def line.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:53 pm to TheLoneOFan
quote:
We lost to Troy because of lack of depth on the Def line.
No we lost to Troy because O couldn't keep his fat, greasy fingers out of the offensive plan.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:02 pm to TheLoneOFan
quote:
We lost to Troy because of lack of depth on the Def line.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:02 pm to rickyh
quote:
We traveled to Alabama about 1972 or three and watched The Bear coached Tide beat our Tigers 30 to nothing. No one could beat the Bear back them. Help Mac pack is all we heard. Whining was alive even back then. But we still backed our Tigers. Watching them lose for years under Hallman and a string of other coaches didn't dampen our support. We have watched many losing Tiger teams. Back in the day, an 8 win season would have made most people happy and any bowl was a big thing back then. Beating Wyoming in a bowl one year was a beautiful thing. We weren't spoiled little cry babies that think every year if we don't win the SEC or national championship that we are somehow failures. Back the team. All this negativity hurts our look as fans. This generation has destroyed the true spirit of Tiger stadium. Can't stay past halftime. Sickening.
The more I re-read this the more I don't think you see what you've done here. I realize you think you're pointing out that there was a time when winning wasn't the ONLY thing we cared about and that even during those days between titles we had lots to celebrate.
And that's all true.
But what you're also doing is completely and totally downplaying the difference between existing and thriving as a program. Yes...we had great moments and wonderful players prior to 2000. But for much of that time we were not much more than an also-ran nationally. And even THEN, as much fun as we were having...we hoped for more. We watched programs like Nebraska wax us time and again in bowls and wondered when it would be our time. We watched teams that were nobodies in Florida State and Miami and even Florida rise up and win titles while we sank.
Then things changed with Saban coming and they REALLY changed for good on January 4th, 2004. It was not just hoping anymore...we'd done it. Saban showed us that all those things we said to ourselves really COULD happen...if we did the right things and really made an effort to take care of what we had.
So I think you're missing the point here. I don't think there's anyone that can;t look back nostalgically at the old days and remember them fondly. But are you REALLY wishing things were like they used to be...when we "had fun" getting are heads beaten in on road trips to BAMA? Being "happy" about 8 win seasons...when we now have a program that's average 10 over the past decade? Going to ANY bowl?
No...those were fine enough to wish for back then, because it was, unfortunately, as much as we could hope for given what we had. But we're not that program any more...thank goodness. We're better, we're beyond it, we're above it. And with that comes higher levels of expectations. That's not being spoiled, it's being realistic about what this program CAN achieve and doing everything we can to ensure we stay in a position to achieve them.
Read in the wrong light, your post really does seem to read as if you'd prefer to go back to 1975 when winning was great but it wasn't the real point of the endeavor on Saturday Night's in Death Valley.
Personally, I would not. That's not to say that I would not like more fans to find some of the same enjoyment we used to in the OTHER things that make our program so special. But the idea that we ought not have high expectations because we once sucked and we still had fun makes it seem as if those concepts are mutually exclusive...and they are not.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:06 pm to TheLoneOFan
quote:
You do understand that there is a limited number of slots available.
No I didn't realize you couldn't fit ONE qb in a class with 25 signees hmmmmm
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:10 pm to GeauxTigerTM
In the meantime, though, I'm going to fight like hell to stop the slide I think we've hopped onto, regardless of how much you r others attempt to pretend the only people sending up warning flares are either children or malcontents. Like you've I've earned the right to voice my concerns over many slim years of being a fan.
GeauxTigerTM
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Respectful well thought out read.
GeauxTiger, you are correct you...we...have earned the right to cheer and express malcontents. My assertions and frustrations are rooted in, all too often those complaints fall on deaf ears and make no difference. More precisely here on tigerdroppings those rants are malicious towards other fans, the coaches and the team.
Constructive, persistent, TIMELY expression of malcontents are invaluable. But throwing rocks all the time can be harmful and can undermine the foundation of what we have built...
just saying...It is confusing that so many of these so called fans here on this site are so disrespectful to ALL...each other, the coaches and arguably the players. Referring to this recruiting class as the worst in years is demeaning to those involved no matter how you wanna frame it.
GeauxTigerTM
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Respectful well thought out read.
GeauxTiger, you are correct you...we...have earned the right to cheer and express malcontents. My assertions and frustrations are rooted in, all too often those complaints fall on deaf ears and make no difference. More precisely here on tigerdroppings those rants are malicious towards other fans, the coaches and the team.
Constructive, persistent, TIMELY expression of malcontents are invaluable. But throwing rocks all the time can be harmful and can undermine the foundation of what we have built...
just saying...It is confusing that so many of these so called fans here on this site are so disrespectful to ALL...each other, the coaches and arguably the players. Referring to this recruiting class as the worst in years is demeaning to those involved no matter how you wanna frame it.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:21 pm to TheLoneOFan
quote:
We lost to Troy because of lack of depth on the Def line.
We lost to Troy because we were unprepared and didn’t take them seriously. Plain and simple. That’s what happens when a blue blood program loses to a sunbelt team. Depth has nothing to with it.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:26 pm to TheLoneOFan
This is the tiger rant.
if you expect solely civil discussion from this board you are going to be disappointed.
quote:
rant
rant/Submit
verb
1.
speak or shout at length in a wild, impassioned way.
if you expect solely civil discussion from this board you are going to be disappointed.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:57 pm to TheLoneOFan
[quote]For discussion I have prepared a list of fan actions advocated here on Tigerdroppings by many. Looking for opinions on the what the desired results vs the likely results of those actions.
a. Constantly bash the coaching staff on social media and in discussion at every opportunity. Desired result? Likely result?
Well if your desire is to get them fired, the more noise out there the faster it gets to the powers at be the sooner the reality it will be if you have enough people voicing their opinion.
b. Stop buying season tickets. Desired result? Likely result?
Trying to affect change.
LSU's football program carries the entire athletic department at LSU, if people voice their opinion with their wallets that is the quickest way you can guarantee that LSU administration will take swift action. Basically you cut the money off, things have to change it is that plain and simple!
c. Constantly describe current recruiting class as the worse in many years. Desired result? Likely result?
Pointing out that the coaching staff isn't living up to past performance.
That one is a little different because you can it is subjective, but if you say "lowest ranked" in years. Well that can't be denied it is.
d. Stop watching the games and supporting the team. Desired result? Likely result?
Sometimes you just can't watch things that are going wrong at an institution that you love. I am not that crowd, but it again if you cut off the money you will effect change quickly!
e. Constantly bash Alleva and F. Alexander. Desired result? Likely result.
Would be to get them fired, the louder and bigger the crowd gets the more likely you are to attain that result.
f. Constantly bash our players and describe then as sub par and then you meet one of them in a bar and they know you have been talking crap about their team. Desired result? Likely result?
What ever the desired result is, it doesn't matter doing that is STUPID and only hurts your team.
g. Constantly bellyache about the scheme of the offense. Desired result? Likley result?
Trying to change the offensive scheme. If enough people say it then you can affect change look who LSU hired as their OC last year. Now we will see what happens this year.
At the end of the day all your questions and answers are about affecting change and if you are unhappy with the results that are being presented than the best way to affect change is through your voice and wallet.
So what is your point? Are you that stupid that you can't understand that simple premise?
a. Constantly bash the coaching staff on social media and in discussion at every opportunity. Desired result? Likely result?
Well if your desire is to get them fired, the more noise out there the faster it gets to the powers at be the sooner the reality it will be if you have enough people voicing their opinion.
b. Stop buying season tickets. Desired result? Likely result?
Trying to affect change.
LSU's football program carries the entire athletic department at LSU, if people voice their opinion with their wallets that is the quickest way you can guarantee that LSU administration will take swift action. Basically you cut the money off, things have to change it is that plain and simple!
c. Constantly describe current recruiting class as the worse in many years. Desired result? Likely result?
Pointing out that the coaching staff isn't living up to past performance.
That one is a little different because you can it is subjective, but if you say "lowest ranked" in years. Well that can't be denied it is.
d. Stop watching the games and supporting the team. Desired result? Likely result?
Sometimes you just can't watch things that are going wrong at an institution that you love. I am not that crowd, but it again if you cut off the money you will effect change quickly!
e. Constantly bash Alleva and F. Alexander. Desired result? Likely result.
Would be to get them fired, the louder and bigger the crowd gets the more likely you are to attain that result.
f. Constantly bash our players and describe then as sub par and then you meet one of them in a bar and they know you have been talking crap about their team. Desired result? Likely result?
What ever the desired result is, it doesn't matter doing that is STUPID and only hurts your team.
g. Constantly bellyache about the scheme of the offense. Desired result? Likley result?
Trying to change the offensive scheme. If enough people say it then you can affect change look who LSU hired as their OC last year. Now we will see what happens this year.
At the end of the day all your questions and answers are about affecting change and if you are unhappy with the results that are being presented than the best way to affect change is through your voice and wallet.
So what is your point? Are you that stupid that you can't understand that simple premise?
Posted on 2/13/18 at 5:29 pm to GeauxTigerTM
quote:
The more I re-read this the more I don't think you see what you've done here. I realize you think you're pointing out that there was a time when winning wasn't the ONLY thing we cared about and that even during those days between titles we had lots to celebrate.
And that's all true.
But what you're also doing is completely and totally downplaying the difference between existing and thriving as a program. Yes...we had great moments and wonderful players prior to 2000. But for much of that time we were not much more than an also-ran nationally. And even THEN, as much fun as we were having...we hoped for more. We watched programs like Nebraska wax us time and again in bowls and wondered when it would be our time. We watched teams that were nobodies in Florida State and Miami and even Florida rise up and win titles while we sank.
Then things changed with Saban coming and they REALLY changed for good on January 4th, 2004. It was not just hoping anymore...we'd done it. Saban showed us that all those things we said to ourselves really COULD happen...if we did the right things and really made an effort to take care of what we had.
So I think you're missing the point here. I don't think there's anyone that can;t look back nostalgically at the old days and remember them fondly. But are you REALLY wishing things were like they used to be...when we "had fun" getting are heads beaten in on road trips to BAMA? Being "happy" about 8 win seasons...when we now have a program that's average 10 over the past decade? Going to ANY bowl?
No...those were fine enough to wish for back then, because it was, unfortunately, as much as we could hope for given what we had. But we're not that program any more...thank goodness. We're better, we're beyond it, we're above it. And with that comes higher levels of expectations. That's not being spoiled, it's being realistic about what this program CAN achieve and doing everything we can to ensure we stay in a position to achieve them.
Read in the wrong light, your post really does seem to read as if you'd prefer to go back to 1975 when winning was great but it wasn't the real point of the endeavor on Saturday Night's in Death Valley.
Personally, I would not. That's not to say that I would not like more fans to find some of the same enjoyment we used to in the OTHER things that make our program so special. But the idea that we ought not have high expectations because we once sucked and we still had fun makes it seem as if those concepts are mutually exclusive...and they are not.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 5:42 pm to RedTigerRulz
quote:
No we lost to Troy because O couldn't keep his fat, greasy fingers out of the offensive plan.
Plain and simple.............
Posted on 2/13/18 at 7:10 pm to TheLoneOFan
Throw things at strangers until we hire Miles back. Then bitch incessantly about how much Miles sucks. That’s been my plan.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 7:31 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
Funny the spin from the o pumpers. You assholed were always the first to talk shite about players to protect Ed Orgeron.
He's the fricking head coach! He needs to grow a pair and have this team ready to play start to finish. Not this fricking crap he tried to sell to the fans.
He's the fricking head coach! He needs to grow a pair and have this team ready to play start to finish. Not this fricking crap he tried to sell to the fans.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 7:37 pm to TDcline
you would probably frick him in arse navy queer.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 7:57 pm to GeauxTigerTM
quote:
The more I re-read this the more I don't think you see what you've done here. I realize you think you're pointing out that there was a time when winning wasn't the ONLY thing we cared about and that even during those days between titles we had lots to celebrate.
And that's all true.
But what you're also doing is completely and totally downplaying the difference between existing and thriving as a program. Yes...we had great moments and wonderful players prior to 2000. But for much of that time we were not much more than an also-ran nationally. And even THEN, as much fun as we were having...we hoped for more. We watched programs like Nebraska wax us time and again in bowls and wondered when it would be our time. We watched teams that were nobodies in Florida State and Miami and even Florida rise up and win titles while we sank.
Then things changed with Saban coming and they REALLY changed for good on January 4th, 2004. It was not just hoping anymore...we'd done it. Saban showed us that all those things we said to ourselves really COULD happen...if we did the right things and really made an effort to take care of what we had.
So I think you're missing the point here. I don't think there's anyone that can;t look back nostalgically at the old days and remember them fondly. But are you REALLY wishing things were like they used to be...when we "had fun" getting are heads beaten in on road trips to BAMA? Being "happy" about 8 win seasons...when we now have a program that's average 10 over the past decade? Going to ANY bowl?
No...those were fine enough to wish for back then, because it was, unfortunately, as much as we could hope for given what we had. But we're not that program any more...thank goodness. We're better, we're beyond it, we're above it. And with that comes higher levels of expectations. That's not being spoiled, it's being realistic about what this program CAN achieve and doing everything we can to ensure we stay in a position to achieve them.
Read in the wrong light, your post really does seem to read as if you'd prefer to go back to 1975 when winning was great but it wasn't the real point of the endeavor on Saturday Night's in Death Valley.
Personally, I would not. That's not to say that I would not like more fans to find some of the same enjoyment we used to in the OTHER things that make our program so special. But the idea that we ought not have high expectations because we once sucked and we still had fun makes it seem as if those concepts are mutually exclusive...and they are not.
/thread
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