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re: Official Brice Turang Watch Thread - Updated - Friday @ 4pm Deadline
Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:37 pm to extremetigerfanatic
Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:37 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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I think there are pros and cons to each choice but to choose the money alleviates some of the risk. It brings the rock bottom possibility up significantly to have a mil or two in the bank before you start your professional life. I tell my kid to take the money every time.
Agreed. But I also sit him down with a professional money manager before he signs. There will be a plan for the money and a budget from day 1. He has to understand that this could provide him lifelong security. If he can't understand that he may need college.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 5:03 pm to Macavity92
To be honest, the money isn’t as fantastic as it looks. I had a client a few years ago that was drafted to Minnesota and signed for $2 million. But after taxes, agents, managers, renting a place to live in a new city, and any other living expenses, since you won’t be able to work any other job, just play baseball, it turned into, and this was his words, “The same as earning $35,000 a year.” He said that the $5 million or above range is when your life changes significantly.
Just sharing since it came straight from someone who went through this decision and is no longer playing, after four years.
Just sharing since it came straight from someone who went through this decision and is no longer playing, after four years.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 5:18 pm to tadelatt
I hope you don't have a lot of clients
Posted on 6/25/18 at 5:32 pm to CapperVin
Indians draft pick/Vandy commit Ethan Hankins just signed an LOI with Chipola JC. Jason Groome did this a few years ago when he was negotiating with the Red Sox. Groome was also committed to Vandy. It's to kick start the negotiations and let the team know they're willing to sit a year.
Things like this are why I never believe LSU is being used as negotiating leverage by a player. Going the JUCO route and telling a team "frick you, I'll do this again next year," creates way more leverage.
Things like this are why I never believe LSU is being used as negotiating leverage by a player. Going the JUCO route and telling a team "frick you, I'll do this again next year," creates way more leverage.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 5:38 pm to tadelatt
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“The same as earning $35,000 a year.”
Yea. That’s why he only has a highschool education.
Even if all the fees you cited were 70% of his bonus he would have 12k a month to live on for 4 years. If he made 35k a year he would have 3k a month
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:28 pm to tadelatt
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To be honest, the money isn’t as fantastic as it looks. I had a client a few years ago that was drafted to Minnesota and signed for $2 million. But after taxes, agents, managers, renting a place to live in a new city, and any other living expenses, since you won’t be able to work any other job, just play baseball, it turned into, and this was his words, “The same as earning $35,000 a year.” He said that the $5 million or above range is when your life changes significantly. Just sharing since it came straight from someone who went through this decision and is no longer playing, after four years.
Lmfao!! This can’t be true
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:35 pm to tadelatt
Your client might be retarded
Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:00 am to WaWaWeeWa
It's a silly stretch to say it's the "same as earning $35k/yr", but tadelatt's basic point is valid. Anyone thinking $2M pretax/pre-agent/pre-manager is life changing money is wrong. Dead wrong.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:10 am to clamdip
I'm curious what your definition of "life-changing" is 
Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:33 am to Sun God
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"life-changing"
This has nothing to to with whether or not the money is life changing or what you think life changing is. (Btw, life changing means you don’t have to work aever again).
It’s literally nothing more than, at a worst case scenario, postponing college for a few years and get a few million dollars guaranteed, OR, go to college now and gamble that you will get the same offer or higher in three years.
You can enjoy the “college life” as much at 24 as you can at 18. And be relatively rich to boot.
You guys are wishing up farfetched reasons for him to come to LSU that don’t make sense in the real world.
He might come. I get it. But then he’s taking a risk I wouldn’t advise him to if I’m his agent or parent.
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 11:35 am
Posted on 6/26/18 at 11:33 am to tadelatt
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To be honest, the money isn’t as fantastic as it looks. I had a client a few years ago that was drafted to Minnesota and signed for $2 million. But after taxes, agents, managers, renting a place to live in a new city, and any other living expenses, since you won’t be able to work any other job, just play baseball, it turned into, and this was his words, “The same as earning $35,000 a year.” He said that the $5 million or above range is when your life changes significantly.
This is called "poor money management"
Posted on 6/26/18 at 1:54 pm to tadelatt
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the money isn’t as fantastic as it looks. I had a client a few years ago that was drafted to Minnesota and signed for $2 million
ONCE AGAIN, if your “client” went to college or pro baseball, HE STILL WOULD HAVE TO PAY THE SAME THING TO AGRNTS AND UNCKE SAM! AND HE STILLHAS TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THREE YEARS OR SO LATER BECAUSE HE ISNT GETTING A JOB IN COLLEGE NOR IS HE GETTING A SALARY AND IS NOT MAKING 35000 less for those three years! WHEN HE IS DRAFTED ALL THOSE FACTORS STILL HAPPEN! IT IS ONLY ABOUT DRAFT POSITION AND IF HE BELIEVES THAT HE CAN IMPROVE IT. PERIOD.
He is also closer to the Majors going to be minors versus college baseball is he isn’t spending 3 years to wait. Very few of them go straight to he pros thus earning his nice 500K/year rookie minimum.
Let’s talk about what he did with his 2MM.
1. He had an option to invest a big portion of that money. For example, his agent fees should never be more than 10-15%. So about 200k with expenses that help him move and get settled that the agent handled. Let’s say he is renting an apartment and has living expenses like a vehicle, etc. Some players still have their home address as their family bc of how often they could move, if that happens the club handles those expenses. So renting an apartment and paying utilities, etc for a crazy amount of 100/year with private coaching AT THE MOST. Do that for 4 years and that’s another 400k.
2. Uncle Sam is taking 40% 800k which would be astronomical because I believe there are certain tax rules for this.
Let’s put this at 1.4 of the 2MM. That’s more than a salary of 35000/year.
I call bullshite on the 35000/year in a guy who rents an apartment.
If he is in the minors more than 8-10 years then maybe.
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 6/26/18 at 1:59 pm to clamdip
quote:now that would depend on your lifestyle. And YOU STILL WOULD DO THE SAME THING ONLY 3 YEARS LATER DUMMY! Geez!
It's a silly stretch to say it's the "same as earning $35k/yr", but tadelatt's basic point is valid. Anyone thinking $2M pretax/pre-agent/pre-manager is life changing money is wrong. Dead wrong.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 3:22 pm to Tiger1988
So if that's the case IMO Brice should go to college get his degree, play baseball with guys still your own age getting bigger stronger while adding about 10-15 lbs of muscle. Bang a bunch of hot coeds and have a blast. Win a possible national championship, memories for a lifetime then be a top 5 pick in three years get (about 6 million) and be in MLB in about 2 years. Wow sounds like a wet dream to me.
Now, this isn't anybody this is Brice Turang who is every bit as good or close to it to Bregs. It's Not going to be "life-changing $" until Brice gets to MLB. Enjoy your life. I'm very selfish when it comes to success for LSU and I love baseball. Having a player like Brice play for 2-3 years is tremendous for LSU & college baseball in general.
When LSU was in OMAHA all the announcers doing their games talked about Bregs and what a great player he is. It brings a lot of attention to the player & LSU. Again, it's great for college baseball to have certain players slip through the cracks instead of going straight to MLB. Hope in the end Brice does what's best for him.
Now, this isn't anybody this is Brice Turang who is every bit as good or close to it to Bregs. It's Not going to be "life-changing $" until Brice gets to MLB. Enjoy your life. I'm very selfish when it comes to success for LSU and I love baseball. Having a player like Brice play for 2-3 years is tremendous for LSU & college baseball in general.
When LSU was in OMAHA all the announcers doing their games talked about Bregs and what a great player he is. It brings a lot of attention to the player & LSU. Again, it's great for college baseball to have certain players slip through the cracks instead of going straight to MLB. Hope in the end Brice does what's best for him.
Posted on 6/26/18 at 3:58 pm to LesnarF5
Bregman slid in the draft because of injury and was drafted in the 29th round....he didn't have this decision to make.
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