re: O is stuck between a rock and a hard place

I think it’s simple. Demote Pelini. Biggest knock on Raymond is that he has never called plays. Well now is your chance

O should be looking EVERYWHERE for a young defensive coach that is running a 4-3 scheme with success. Ny the end of the season, the players SHOULD have some element of understanding of the concept so that coach will be able to communicate with them over the off season.

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O is stuck between a rock and a hard place

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O created this shite show. I question whether he has the intellect, insight and disposition to fix it.
The most pressure O has faced prior to this was after the Troy loss. After that game he lost his composure, like throwing Brossette under the bus. Remember it was an ex-player, Duke Riley, who returned came in and lifted the team up and settled them down that week.
Has made two epically bad hires in coordinators, Canada and Pelini, and a questionable hire in Ensminger.

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Why do anything before the end of season? Are you trying to save this (meaningless) season?

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Exactly, who's going to coach the defense? O? Hell he's the one who wanted to play this style.

Bo is done at end of the season unless miraculous transformation of play in last 5 games.

Here’s the struggle if you are Woody. LSU boosters will absorb the Pellini mistake (like Canada), and it won’t be the full $2.3 M per if Pellini catches on somewhere next year (maybe FCS school hires him as HS).

The challenge is for Woody do you commit $6M to next established DC if you are having serious doubts that O can sustain LSU. 5-25 SEC record without Aranda or Brady indicates he’s fine as interim shot of Red Bull, but his specialty is DL hand combat and wooing recruits with tales of his past.

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I think every knows what the problem is but they are too apprehensive to come out and say it.

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I'm not too apprehensive.
We lost 19 starters:

Joe Burrow - NFL Rookie of the year
Clyde - NFL rookie of the year runner-up
Jetts - NFL rookie of the year candidate
Chase - Future NFL All Star
Moss - Record setter at LSU
Saahdiq - Started a game in the NFL before injury
MaGee
Cush - Day one starter in the NFL
Damien Lewis - Kicking the piss out of NFL linemen

Rashard Lawrence - Made NFL Roster
Tyler Shelvin - Sitting out; expected top two rounds in NFL draft
K'Lavon Chaisson - First round NFL draft choice
Patrick Queen - First rounder; AFC defensive player of the week!
Jacob Phillips - Made NFL roster
Grant Delpit - NFL Injured reserve; 2nd round draft choice
Kristian Fulton - Kicked arse in NFL before injury
Kary Vincent

Then Brennan and Dare for the last two games!

There is definately a locker room issue and that stems from O's comments regarding president. Thus they didn't want him being a part of their march. Schools around the country had them, its nothing new just at LSU. Alabama had theirs, FL, and players wanted their head coach to be a part of it. LSU players did not. That speaks volumes.

Aranda was an amazing DC and players knew it. They respected Aranda. O constantly taking shots at Aranda is not sitting well

Watching that game , it honestly looked like O has completely lost this team. I don't know if firing Pelini now would do anything, but that team quit on ALL the coaches on Saturday.

dude, no one is getting fired with a 80 million dollar short fall, its stupid to even talk about this shite...literally orgeron is taking a 300k pay cut... its ridiculous... booster money is going to pay bills that arent paid... not toward firing a DC in his first year with 5 million buyout...

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I think it’s simple. Demote Pelini. Biggest knock on Raymond is that he has never called plays. Well now is your chance

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I'd do to Pelini what we kind of did to Canada the second half of 2017. Let him keep the title of DC through the end of the year with a mutual understanding we'll be parting ways at the end of the season. Let Raymond start calling some plays and see how it goes. If Raymond isn't working out either, let him stay where he is as DB coach and find a new DC. If he's working out, great.

But there is just no excuse for what's going on right now. COVID is not an excuse. It may be an excuse for a slight drop-off but not an excuse to getting torched every single weekend and having arguably the worst defense in the SEC and 100% the worst defense we've had in 30 years and possibly ever. No adjustments have been made whatsoever and there has been zero improvement since week 1. This experiment should be over. Keeping him around for another year over 4 million dollars is going to cost you more than 4 million dollars in the long run.