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O is stuck between a rock and a hard place
Posted on 11/1/20 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 11/1/20 at 8:59 pm
I don’t think loyalty to Pelini is in play here. Question is timing of the firing. Fire him now and you’re in limbo land with no DC until next year which may or may not be worse than where you currently are. Plus the next DC is watching and wondering how much rope he’ll get. Orgeron also has a locker room that isn’t connecting with him so he doesn’t know which problem to solve first.
Personally, I’d fire Pelini now and bench a couple of starters and see where things land. But I guess O needs to work through all the pros of cons.
Personally, I’d fire Pelini now and bench a couple of starters and see where things land. But I guess O needs to work through all the pros of cons.
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 9:00 pm
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Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:00 pm to siliconvalleytiger
It's a bad look to fire a coordinator mid-season. Almost never happens and isn't the buyout less after the season anyways? I'm fine with taking some of his coaching responsibilities away but not firing him until the end of the year like they did with Canada.
I just want him gone before LSU steps on the field at the Rose Bowl next year.
I just want him gone before LSU steps on the field at the Rose Bowl next year.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:01 pm to siliconvalleytiger
No point in firing pelini right this second. Let him finish this season and then shite can his arse. Go after best defensive coordinator available in offseason. The season is already over, doing something right now will just throw fuel on the fire.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:03 pm to Fox McCloud
Normally I’d totally agree but if the Ole Miss and Arkansas of the world destroy us like auburn did then the heat will be unbearable. Then it looks like he did nothing.
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:04 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Where is LSU gonna find $5,000,000 to fire Pelini right now ? The football program just lost $80,000,000 due to COVID.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:05 pm to Got Blaze
LSU will come up with 7M. Private donors plus the opportunity cost of not firing him.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:06 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Why do anything before the end of season? Are you trying to save this (meaningless) season?
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:08 pm to siliconvalleytiger
O is in deep shite more than he realizes. He has to fire Bo, then whoever he hires LSU will have to overpay to get. If Bo's replacement doesn't produce drastic improvement immediately, its over for Ed at LSU.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:08 pm to CalTiger53
We can’t be losing this badly. And I’m an O supporter who kinda gets what he was trying to do with Pelini.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:09 pm to CalTiger53
Also, where in California are you?
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:09 pm to CalTiger53
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Why do anything before the end of season? Are you trying to save this (meaningless) season?
The only reason I can think of would be if you were considering someone on staff for the job, you could give them an audition.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:09 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Combination of scheme change, not having the correct players for his version of 4-3 and lack of off season to get the players ready.
Ed may give him a 2nd year.
Ed may give him a 2nd year.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:12 pm to siliconvalleytiger
The argument of the next DC you hire being worried about how much rope they get makes no sense. A. If you have a historically bad defense and don’t at least trend upward as the year goes on then yes you get kicked to the curb B. Any elite DC will not be worried about being fired after one year because the product they put on the field will be much better than what we have seen
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:12 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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Fire him now and you’re in limbo land with no DC until next year which may or may not be worse than where you currently are.
This is one of the worst defenses in the last thirty years of the program. 1999 and 2008 might be in the same ballpark. It literally can’t get any worse than losing to two of the three worst teams on the schedule and losing in historic fashion to a mediocre auburn team.
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Plus the next DC is watching and wondering how much rope he’ll get.
LSU shelled out $2.3 mil a year for a washed up Pelini who hadn’t coached a down of Power 5 football in five years, and who had zero other schools bidding against LSU. He’ll collect another $5 mil if he’s canned. Every DC in the country not named Mike Elko or Brent Venables would take that.
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:19 pm to logjamming
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LSU shelled out $2.3 mil a year for a washed up Pelini w
Gotta overpay for coaches when the only thing the head coach brings to the table is recruiting.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:19 pm to LSUAlum2001
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Ed may give him a 2nd year.
They'll need to show some improvement by the end of the year for this to happen, imo. The whole new scheme excuse only works for so long. They've had 5 games in 6 weeks, plus all of fall camp to teach these guys what to do, but clearly the players are still not all in the same page.
You can say the talent is down (I don't totally buy this) but if that was the case, guys would be in position, but would either be a step slow or physically outmatched. That's just not really what's happening. Guys are missing assignments, blowing coverages, in the wrong hole, not keeping containment and just plain out of position way too much.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:27 pm to Got Blaze
Get it from JBE, tell him to allow fans in tiger Stadium .
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:29 pm to tigre704
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I just want him gone before LSU steps on the field at the Rose Bowl next year
I want him gone as soon as the last second is off the clock vs Florida.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:31 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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Orgeron also has a locker room that isn’t connecting with him so he doesn’t know which problem to solve first.
There are obvious locker room problems but the downvotes come out when this is mentioned. I think every knows what the problem is but they are too apprehensive to come out and say it.
The explanation of this locker room divide could go a LOOOOONG way in determining just how bad a hire Pelini was or was not.
If there is outside influence on the team cohesion.......then it doesn't matter who the DC is. It doesnt. If the players feel used/abused or pissed off, then they weren't able to pick up on the scheme of the BEST DC ever to the worst. THere could be a refusal by the players. Its not new.
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 11/1/20 at 9:31 pm to siliconvalleytiger
I say fire his arse now and pay his salary for the rest of the year, but that’s it. There has to be some clauses in there that can let LSU off the hook. Fight that shite in court.
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