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Need clarification on 5 year plan.

Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:14 pm
Posted by LAtoARK
Member since Nov 2022
95 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:14 pm
This has probably been addressed several times and being old I probably missed it
Question is everyone says this is a unique problem, that will only happen this year, is that really true ? Why can't a player next year, that played 3 or 4 years, decide to try out for the NFL. Go the minicamps, then get cut and claim they still have eligibility, even though the NFL had paid them.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
10649 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:17 pm to
I’m assuming it’d cause they have less of a leg to stand on in court as those guys have a choice. These guys had no choice.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35517 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:20 pm to
The difference is, this year’s class will know the rule. The ncaa dragged its feet and screwed a lot of kids.

Hate the ncaa, not the kids.
Posted by LSU75
just happy to be here
Member since Jan 2005
1010 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:23 pm to
The class of 2022 did not know they would be granted an extra year of eligibility until after they were drafted. Going forward, it is known that everyone has 5 to play 5.
Posted by BROpaneTANK
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2010
3143 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:23 pm to
That player will have forfeited eligibility. These players ran out of eligibility, but then watched the people a year below get two years tacked on.
This post was edited on 9/1/26 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Swamp Frog x
Member since Nov 2024
1184 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:27 pm to
I really don’t see why people give 2 shits if a player has some time in a pro league then comes back to college. It truly is antiquated thought and rule in this time of players being paid. No real pro is going back to college anyways.

I am a massive fan of the 5 for 5 rule where your time starts ticking after high school. If you’re in that age range you should be able to compete in college sports no matter what.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
12176 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:29 pm to
It’s not true, doesn’t matter how much they want it to be
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
11174 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

I’m assuming it’d cause they have less of a leg to stand on in court as those guys have a choice. These guys had no choice.


Its why the Judge’s order for RJ Luis Jr was the dumbest of the bunch. It seems like the judge was trying to out dumb his Judge daughter.

Luis chose to go pro and give up his remaining year of eligibility after the 2024-2025 season. He was ineligible a year before the NCAA even added the new age based eligibility rules in June.


Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
12176 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:36 pm to
Luis should not be allowed to play. It’s bad for college sports and it’s something that everyone on this site hated the thought of a year ago
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
29924 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:39 pm to
The difference is this class didn’t get their 5th year of eligibility until after going to the NFL. Every class moving forward would be voluntarily bypassing years of college eligibility.

Why is this so hard for yall to understand?
Posted by jasonbr1975
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2024
2791 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

The class of 2022 did not know they would be granted an extra year of eligibility until after they were drafted. Going forward, it is known that everyone has 5 to play 5.

Correct. If the NCAA would have made this known before the draft, then there wouldn’t have been an issue.
Posted by CarriereTiger
Carriere, MS
Member since Jun 2018
184 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:41 pm to
Because they will know before hand that they still have a year or years of eligibility left. The guys in this case right now finished last season under the assumption their eligibility was done. So only option, at the time was move on to the nfl.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
39406 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

Its why the Judge’s order for RJ Luis Jr was the dumbest of the bunch. It seems like the judge was trying to out dumb his Judge daughter. Luis chose to go pro and give up his remaining year of eligibility after the 2024-2025 season. He was ineligible a year before the NCAA even added the new age based eligibility rules in June.




Hey you.



Keep quiet about that.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
3192 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

The difference is this class didn’t get their 5th year of eligibility until after going to the NFL. Every class moving forward would be voluntarily bypassing years of college eligibility. Why is this so hard for yall to understand?


It's not that we don't understand. It's that we disagree with your opinion just like the NCAA and every major conference that has publicly spoken out against your opinion of how they should interpret and apply their rules.

We also believe the judge ruling will create precedent which means this will not be a one time concern.

Why is this so hard to understand?
This post was edited on 9/1/26 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
29924 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 8:46 pm to
Because that ONE class wasn’t given an option to come back for a 5th year. Everyone else has
Posted by ROPO
Member since Jul 2016
3489 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

It's not that we don't understand. It's that we disagree with your opinion just like the NCAA and every major conference that has publicly spoken out against your opinion of how they should interpret and apply their rules. We also believe the judge ruling will create precedent which means this will not be a one time concern.


The conferences are free to disagree but every court that has looked at this (not just the Pyburn case) has ruled for the class of 2022 players.

The class of 2022 player who played 4 years was told they wouldn’t get the 5th year. This was in early 2026. They therefore were never given a choice to either try their luck with the NFL or come back.

This is very different than a class of 2023 player who will complete his 4th year this season. At the end of the season, he will have a legitimate choice of coming back for a 5th year or going to the NFL and CHOOSING to forego his fifth year.

The courts that have been ruling for the players have been doing so on EQUITABLE grounds. Basically by denying them the 5th year arbitrarily AND denying them any choice, the courts are granting them the right to return
(So long as they either did not get paid (Hutson) or return the money (Wright).

That equitable argument is not available for anyone after this year. Therefore, these cases are not precedent for the future and should be isolated to this season only.

[That being said, we can’t stop courts from finding new basis for rulings next year. Only that these cases are not precedent for the future]
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
3192 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

Because that ONE class wasn’t given an option to come back for a 5th year. Everyone else has


Yes, this has been repeated to ad nauseam here. That's unfortunate, but rules change all the time and they only apply to those that are part of the organization at the time the new rules are implemented. They moved on to the NFL and as far as the NCAA is concerned they are no longer eligible.

Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
18410 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 10:17 pm to
Because when they declare early they are waiving their college eligibility. The guys that came out this year did not have any eligibility to waive.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11219 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 10:53 pm to
You can elect to leave early and come back. This only affects those who went pro after their 4th year and no RS. They didn’t know they’d have a 5th year so they are suing to get it. Most would make more in NIL than practice squad or what they made in training camp.
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