re: NCAA rules regarding baseball coaches for Division I

The change should have been the NCAA allowing a third paid assistant. The fact they had to lump softball in there is what guaranteed it to fail.

Right the coaching makeup in college baseball is the equivalent to having to make your offensive or defensive coordinator also be your recruiting coordinator.

CPM has decided that his recruiting coordinator position is more important than his hitting coach position. He may be wrong but that is what he is thinking. To be honest I think getting the talent in here is the most important part but the question is would a guy that does both bring in slightly less talent but bring up the approach a lot more to balance it all out?

I'm fine with CPM being more of a manager than a coach.

I'm fine with Dunn coaching pitchers

I'm fine with Cain being the recruiting coordinator

But I don't think you can have all three of those things.

I think either

1) Your HC must also be very actively involved in hitting or pitching coaching, or

2) Your RC must also be very actively involved in hitting or pitching coaching

I think having a HC who doesn't coach positions, and a RC who only coaches 3B, is what is hurting our team, and what is different from other programs.

Russian, you are plugged in. It seems like Dunn is going to be a pitching coach forever. But what is Cain's future? Does he want to be a pitching coach?

I will actually play the sunshine pumper role as it pertains to the pitchers on the roster currently. They all have good enough stuff to contribute. Aaron George can't always find the strike zone, but there are times when his breaking ball is filthy. Costello gets a lot of movement on his fastball when he's on. Again, he struggles with finding the zone though.

We have a small pitching class coming in. Especially if the two kids from Texas go where they're expected to be drafted. (Espino, the Panamanian kid in Georgia has been invited to attend the draft, he won't be at LSU) Given that, I really hope we don't attempt to overhaul the pitching staff again. We've been turning it over too much in recent years.

But to your point, if I, as an amateur, could see that there is a weird lack of left handed pitchers in the next three recruiting classes, how did it take this long for the coaches to attempt to address the need.

We now have an additional JUCO LHP committed to go with the one HS one already signed. So we could effectively have 3 new LHPs next season counting McMurray. But we waited a long time to go after a JUCO kid to fill that need, and the need has been apparent for about 3 years now.

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I thought Cain was already recruiting while Cannizaro and Dunn were the 2 "actual" coaches though???

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When Cannizarro was the recruiting coordinator he used Cain as a kind of "recruit filter" function. Cain would identify prospective recruits via websites and baseball publications and channel those names to Cannizaro for the actual recruiting process.

According to an article I read last year after the baseball recruiting services identified LSU as having the #1 rated recruiting class, Cain developed a multi-year approach to filling needs and has some type of spreadsheet or display that shows what prospects (some as young as middle school) are in the pipeline and how they might fill needs at LSU for several years into the future.

Is there a limit on how much the "volunteer" coach can be paid?

Sorry if that's already been covered in this thread and I missed it.

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But for the life of me I don't understand how any type of prospect evaluation system could ever identify some of our pitchers as SEC quality arms.

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This
I’ve said it before & so have others regarding Cain bringing in the #1 recruiting class
But the more you look at it it makes me wonder

Something else I have wondered about & probably should know but what, if any, pitchers came to LSU with injuries?
I am not remembering if Labas & Storz were healthy when they got here, I don’t think so but could easily be 100% wrong.

What does the damn head coach do? Other than sit in the dugout and collect a check? I never hear anything about him recruiting? What is is coaching area of expertise? What are does he coach?

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PM will not succeed if he continues to hire so many ex-players.

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Who do you think you "hire" for these positions that are "volunteer" or don't allow for on-field coaching? I really bet replacing Nate Fury who makes travel arrangements and makes the budget with someone not from LSU would really help the program.

I meant the actual coaches that were former players.

Cain, Ochinko, Gibbs.

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but came away convinced he graduated from the Smoke Laval Graduate School of Social Skills.

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Damn you, I just spit diet coke all over my screen. That's hysterical. And true.

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I think there's a possibility that when Mainieri retires Dunn will be promoted to head coach. He was designated "Associate Head Coach" a couple of years ago.

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Interesting. I kinda had him pegged as a John Chavis - type person. Perfectly happy to be an assistant forever, just wants to coach and not hassle with the issues of running a program.