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re: My 52 year love affair with college football is dying.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:36 am to tbabino
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:36 am to tbabino
Good post. Agree in general. Suspect my key difference in thought is that my view of what college football is supposed to be (the greatest sport in the world) has been dying for decades.
My perspective:
- I have believed that as the big time $ of the business of college football has taken off, the players should share in the value chain (not just TV, conferences, coaches, universities, etc); however, I knew there is no fair way to do it. NIL is a start but is untethered and reinforces all the entitlement socialization that is American sports today, of which I 100% agree w/you.
- I wish the term "student" in student-athlete meant as much today as it did 40-50 years ago. The value of an education and $$$ that cost and earned is long gone. For too many, it does not. College is just the coincidental apparatus that houses the avenue to the NFL.
- $$$ is the root cause of college football's demise. What I thought was college football died long ago. Therefore, I think this quasi-amateur sport that was once what you describe is long down the path towards the quasi-semi pro sport that it is (SEC for sure is leading the way) and will continue to evolve into professionalized semi pro football (perhaps license to/from college/NFL or whatever model takes shape).
Been dying. Just dying faster.
My perspective:
- I have believed that as the big time $ of the business of college football has taken off, the players should share in the value chain (not just TV, conferences, coaches, universities, etc); however, I knew there is no fair way to do it. NIL is a start but is untethered and reinforces all the entitlement socialization that is American sports today, of which I 100% agree w/you.
- I wish the term "student" in student-athlete meant as much today as it did 40-50 years ago. The value of an education and $$$ that cost and earned is long gone. For too many, it does not. College is just the coincidental apparatus that houses the avenue to the NFL.
- $$$ is the root cause of college football's demise. What I thought was college football died long ago. Therefore, I think this quasi-amateur sport that was once what you describe is long down the path towards the quasi-semi pro sport that it is (SEC for sure is leading the way) and will continue to evolve into professionalized semi pro football (perhaps license to/from college/NFL or whatever model takes shape).
Been dying. Just dying faster.
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:37 am to tbabino
The people downvoting this post and saying everyone is overreacting to NIL most likely never got to experience college football at the right age between the 90s and early 00s. You’re the ones I feel truly sorry for.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:37 am to tbabino
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I have never been a pro football enthusiast, even though I want the Saints to play well and represent Louisiana well.
MLB was once a passion of mine also, but much less so now.
NBA....please...no.
But college football....that is my sweet spot. The passion, the rivalries, the playing of a sport for the sheer joy and pride of the school you represent.
It's all gone.
And it ain't ever returning. Call me whatever name you like and downvote your asses off, I could not care less.
College football is ruined. And there is no unringing this bell.
I haven't abandoned my fan-dom totally, but the avid-ness with which I followed recruiting is fading quickly.
I want so much to see LSU back in the national conversation as a perennial Top 10 team...but the Texas Bowl shows just how far that climb really is...and it's gonna take time. And time, often, means painful losses. Maybe BKelly can restore Tiger Pride quickly. Maybe it will take several years. Time will tell. But for $95 million reasons, I want him to succeed in the worst way. That, and my hatred/envy of Bama.
But this NIL crap is the end of college football as we all know it. And it ain't good. Honestly, it ain't good for the athletes, either. It further ingrains the entitlement mentality that these kids are raised in, and coddled with, from middle school.
I bleed purple and gold. I am an alumnus. I am on the faculty of the LSU-HSC system. I am fully invested. I was a season ticket holder for 23 years. I just care much less these days about college football than I ever thought I would.
I cannot be alone in my feelings.
Back in my day...
The bitching of how things used to be is nauseating. The world has changed; guess what? you'll still watch the games, tv networks will still pay big bucks to conferences for rights and huge games will still sellout (dud games will have difficulties attracting full stadiums).
To those saying, "I will stop watching" ... no you won't because you love LSU too much. You are spending your free time on an LSU message board.
And for those saying they'll notice when people like me stop watching. Did you say the same thing after the NFL controversies? And guess what, the NFL just signed rights deal increases that almost doubled what they were getting before.
So long for the days of old as much as you want, but a new reality is here. Telling yourself the old world is coming back is fooling yourself.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:41 am to tbabino
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:43 am to UnluckyTiger
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overreacting to NIL most likely never got to experience college football at the right age between the 90s and early 00s. You’re the ones I feel truly sorry for.
I experienced college football in the 90s and 00s.
You’re overreacting son. Grow a pair and enjoy the ride.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:44 am to genuineLSUtiger
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Weed is a lot more ok than alcohol. The only people who make statements like this have never partaken in order to understand the superiority of weed.
we smoked weed pretty openly at LSU. We also drank a lot. All of us made tea, and smoked weed. The shite wasn’t regulated and or tested. I’ve seen people OD from hitting laced joints.
The only issue I really have is it isn’t LEGAL. If it were, then I have no problem. Until then, follow the rules.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:45 am to tbabino
It's a fact and you aren't alone. Today the players are essentially biting the hands of the ones who feed them. If college football remains on this path then people that always loved the sport due to the emotion, loyalty, heart that players possessed...will simply lose the passion their self. Ratings will drop, just like the NFL....and guess what...salaries drop. Kids today don't understand economics. Hell, they can't even spell it.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:45 am to tbabino
NIL is long overdue, college football is a multi billion dollar business and the players are the money draw.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:46 am to StAugFLTiger
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Ratings will drop, just like the NFL....
Y’all are still clinging to this huh?
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:47 am to lsu2006
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You are clueless
Attendance is a barometer. People watch on TV because they can’t (not won’t) be there. For those that say they choose to watch on TV, even those will speak longingly about the magic of being in the stadium. You might say TV revenue or something else, but college football is driven by attendance and the perception that it is the place to be and the thing to do (just like everything else in entertainment/social settings). That perception drives donor money and TV money.
The only reason people watch it on TV is to be able to brag and talk about and have sense of pride. Donors only give because it supports their team and the feeling that they are helping something big and important in their social circle- do you think they will give if Attendance dries up across the board and their social circle doesn’t care?
If attendance fades, so will donor money and TV money. I see passion for college football fading. I wish I was wrong.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:48 am to tbabino
It’s over. Completely undone by money power. 99% of the denizens of this site have no idea what money power is.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:50 am to PacWilly
The same people bemoaning NIL today are the sons and grandsons of people who were pearl clutching when they started letting blacks play
Anything that gives them freedom, money or individuality is frowned upon by southern CFB fans.
Anything that gives them freedom, money or individuality is frowned upon by southern CFB fans.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:51 am to tbabino
OP, you are not alone. I am going through the exact same thing. I’ve been a cfb fan for 63 years.
I have started watching lower profile colleges play and it is enjoyable though not quite the same.
My biggest loss is this has always been a shared interest with my son. It kept us in close touch with each other. He is having the same issues, though he started feeling it years before me.
Change is the only constant, but cfb has been killed on purpose and it is sad.
I have started watching lower profile colleges play and it is enjoyable though not quite the same.
My biggest loss is this has always been a shared interest with my son. It kept us in close touch with each other. He is having the same issues, though he started feeling it years before me.
Change is the only constant, but cfb has been killed on purpose and it is sad.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:52 am to tbabino
Babino- With you 100 percent. My Dad took me to Tiger Stadium for the first time during the 1966 season. At that point, I was an LSU fan for life. There were always issues you heard about- Oklahoma paying players in the 50's, Bear Bryant at Bama signing everyone so they couldn't play for his opponents, etc. But every Saturday, the players were as dedicated as the fans to showing undying love for their university. Today, the 'look at me' culture is suffocating football. NIL and the portal has turned everything into a shite show. How an A&M team that has never been a real contender suddenly signs a 5 star class for the ages is further proof. The players no longer have loyalty, it's just the $$, so harder for fans to have the same love. With that being said, the game Tuesday night showed me some guys that still had the old loyalty. Jontre Kirklin's words made me feel proud and to see a warrior like Austin Deculus shedding tears for his last game at LSU, these guys get it!!
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:54 am to lsu2006
Not hear to argue with you. You believe what you will. Almost every single person I'm around that were longtime NFL fans, including myself, no longer watch. If you can't see it I'm sorry. It isn't racism...it's the bs propaganda the NFL and players push. Cheers.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:55 am to Turf Taint
Agree.
College football was always amateur athletics at its best.
And while college football as we know it is dying/ dead, I think
1) the unfairness of not fairly compensating college players while their schools made hundreds of millions was wrong and had to be addressed;
2) the No-holds barred NIL and jungle transfer rules is not a good solution to that unfairness; and
3) With some leadership, college football could have been reformed, without it burning to the ground.
In the end, nobody will be happy with the result, because the consumer is not going to like the new product.
College football was always amateur athletics at its best.
And while college football as we know it is dying/ dead, I think
1) the unfairness of not fairly compensating college players while their schools made hundreds of millions was wrong and had to be addressed;
2) the No-holds barred NIL and jungle transfer rules is not a good solution to that unfairness; and
3) With some leadership, college football could have been reformed, without it burning to the ground.
In the end, nobody will be happy with the result, because the consumer is not going to like the new product.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:55 am to DamnStrong1860
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How dare these kids work their asses off and then expect to reap the benefits of their labor?
They are reaping the benefits . . . they're getting a COLLEGE EDUCATION PAID FOR.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:56 am to StAugFLTiger
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Almost every single person I'm around that were longtime NFL fans, including myself, no longer watch.
Sounds like you hangout with a bunch of snowflakes
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:57 am to ProjectP2294
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The team just wasn't entertaining and wins were more relieving than celebratory.
You were not entertained in 2019. Lol. Then you will never be satisfied with anything LSU football ever does. You would be better off just crawling in a hole. I find it amazing the crap some of you come up with. It is sad that some of you actually put time into your posts.
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