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re: Murray State has only finished .500 or worse twice since the mid 1980s

Posted on 3/10/23 at 10:35 am to
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
91896 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 10:35 am to
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McMahon is 6-29 career vs P5 opponents. We’re fricked


But let's give him a raise and a long arse contract! Great job Scotty!
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26341 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 10:40 am to
I honestly couldn't care less about a HC's record against P5 opponents while at a small school. His conference record there is the only thing really relevant.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15763 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 10:58 am to
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McMahon is 6-29 career vs P5 opponents. We’re fricked


I keep seeing people say this, and it's a poor point. To be fair to McMahon, Will Wade was 2-13 against P5 teams prior to LSU. I don't think that's a good barometer to hold a coach too.
Posted by GoldenBoy
Winning!
Member since Nov 2004
42076 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:01 am to
He's at LSU now. What he did at Murray State is none of my concern.
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:01 am to
It’s really not but it fits the agenda and unfortunately we didn’t see much this year to give us much hope for the future
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3918 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:27 am to
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To his credit, MSU improved again after that (two of those year's Ja Morant was on the team), before going 13-13 in 20-21.


You forgot to add that he then went 31-3 without Morant the following season before being hired by LSU.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33830 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:37 am to
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You forgot to add that he then went 31-3 without Morant the following season before being hired by LSU.


And you forgot to read the last paragraph of the post

quote:

MSU had consistently been a very good mid-major program since the late 80's when McMahon took over. 13 NCAA Tournament appearances...which is really impressive for a program in a "one bid" league. While McMahon certainly had his share of great moments (last year being one of the best seasons in school history), he also has "lows" not experienced by any of the 6 coaches that preceded him.
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 11:38 am
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:42 am to
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He had two tournament wins in 7 years there.


That’s one more than Will Wade had at LSU.
Posted by TheJuicey
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2019
4347 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:44 am to
No, the issue is LSU isn’t a “learn on the job” job. He should’ve already figured out what didn’t work. Yes the SEC is different, but it is still basketball.

He mentioned how he learned stuff in his press conference. Big red flag personally. We took a chance on this clown and it is looking like a bad decision. I understand giving him another year, but a similar trajectory should equate to being fired towards the end of the year. He literally has no where to go but up.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4095 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:47 am to
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It’s really not but it fits the agenda and unfortunately we didn’t see much this year to give us much hope for the future


Obviously there’s plenty of reason for concern that McMahon is in over his head, but he did show on two separate occasions at Murray St that he can turn things around and fairly quickly. He followed up a losing season in Year 2 with a conference title and NCAA tournament berth in Year 3. Likewise he followed a 13-13 season with a 31-3 season that included an NCAA tournament win.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53577 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:00 pm to
So what happens if McNeese hires him and he gets a show cause after, he has to wait a year or two to coach

What more does the NCAA or IARP need to make the final ruling. We are now a year out from the NOA.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:04 pm to
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That’s one more than Will Wade had at LSU.


Ouch
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
11969 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:05 pm to
Murray state ain’t LSU. They ain’t in the SEC. Hell the SEC isn’t even a juggernaut conference either. Asking to finish in the top 7 isn’t asking a whole lot.

Imagine if LSU was in the Big12. It would be ten times worse
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3918 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:30 pm to
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And you forgot to read the last paragraph of the post


I read it.

In your post, you referenced the ending season records from the years his teams underperformed but not the record from his last year (his best season) which resulted from a team that exceeded all expectations.

You also appear to credit Morant as the reason for the team’s turnaround but fail to mention he wasn’t on MM’s best team.


Seems like a backhanded compliment.
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 12:31 pm
Posted by SMD
Member since Sep 2010
5538 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:34 pm to
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That’s one more than Will Wade had at LSU.


Shhhhhhhhhh. Don’t let them know that.
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41573 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:38 pm to
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Shhhhhhhhhh. Don’t let them know that.


Y’all trying to throw shade at a dude that had a sweet 16 team and missed because he got suspended. McMahon just went 2-16. Just some ignorant mother frickers on here.
Posted by SMD
Member since Sep 2010
5538 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:45 pm to
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because he got suspended.


Let me guess. It was someone else’s fault. Honk honk.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23108 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:46 pm to
Ja Morant
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
45901 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:48 pm to
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Murray St. 2022-23 record: 17-15, 7th in MVC
Just sayin'.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17589 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:57 pm to
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Y’all trying to throw shade at a dude that had a sweet 16 team and missed because he got suspended.


WW was still coaching that team - anyone around then and following knows that to be the case, he wasn't on the bench for the actual games but oversaw everything else.
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