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Mikey Mahtook with a reasonable take
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:29 pm
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Since they’ve both taken over at their respective schools: Brian Kelly: 13-6 with 5 ranked losses to FSU (x2), Tennessee, Georgia, and Ole Miss. One unranked loss to A&M.
Marcus Freeman: 14-5 with 3 ranked losses to Ohio State (x2) and USC, two unranked losses to Marshall (lol) and Stanford.
*losses sorted by end of the season rankings for 2022 games
Let’s take into account the drastically different situations the two coaches took over. BK took over a 6-7 team with less than 40 scholarship players on it.
Freeman took over a 11-2 team. And the 2024 recruiting cycle isn’t over, let’s compare 2023.
LSU was 5th, ND was 10th on On3 LSU was 6th, ND was 12th on 247sports.
Mik'd Up Twitter (X)
Take a breath and let’s be supportive. Trashing your program helps no one.
Are the defensive results of this season acceptable? No.
Will they be addressed? Yes.
Goosfrabba Tigers. Goosfrabba
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:32 pm to ConcreteThreshold
I can deal with losses.
I can’t deal with watching an lsu defense that either doesnt know the fundamentals, or is incapable of executing fundamentally sound defense.
I swear to christ, if i go another week without seeing a SINGLE LSU db turn and look for the ball im going to go insane.
ETA: more so than i already am
I can’t deal with watching an lsu defense that either doesnt know the fundamentals, or is incapable of executing fundamentally sound defense.
I swear to christ, if i go another week without seeing a SINGLE LSU db turn and look for the ball im going to go insane.
ETA: more so than i already am
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:33 pm to ConcreteThreshold
quote:it’s just that you’re being reasonable and that is not allowed here.
ConcreteThreshold
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:39 pm to ConcreteThreshold
so we're comparing ourselves to ND now? that's the bar?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:39 pm to ConcreteThreshold
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Will they be addressed? Yes.
Will they be addressed properly is the better question.
Also, if the program is going to take everyone's time and money, they are gonna have to take the criticism that comes with it when your defense is HISTORICALLY bad.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:41 pm to dstone12
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being reasonable and that is not allowed here.
I hate that this is a fact.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:42 pm to BlackPot
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I hate that this is a fact.
meh, this is a place for people to come and vent/bitch, it's all in good fun
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:42 pm to LSUnation78
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I swear to christ, if i go another week without seeing a SINGLE LSU db turn and look for the ball im going to go insane.
we would be 10 times better if we got to the point where this was our biggest problem.
we consistently don’t have DBs within 10 yards of the WR.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:42 pm to ConcreteThreshold
Nice info 
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:44 pm to ConcreteThreshold
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Take a breath and let’s be supportive. Trashing your program helps no one.
Yup. I think some fans don’t think it all the way through. If they really want LSU to win, they should temper their words.
Criticism is fine, and necessary. But going overboard with it can hurt the program you are supposedly rooting for.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:44 pm to ConcreteThreshold
The recruiting cycle is not over, true, but there is nothing that leads us to believe that Kelly and company is going to turn things around. They are already at 24 commits with all the big players done and many of the top players committed elsewhere.
He's simply not a very good recruiter even with the LSU advantages compared to Notre Dame.
He will continue to try and find some small school players to transfer in that aren't P5 level, and then claim LSU is just about a year away next year.
He's simply not a very good recruiter even with the LSU advantages compared to Notre Dame.
He will continue to try and find some small school players to transfer in that aren't P5 level, and then claim LSU is just about a year away next year.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:45 pm to 777Tiger
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so we're comparing ourselves to ND now? that's the bar?
He's comparing a team that was 11-2 two years ago and another one that was 6-7. It's a good take.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:46 pm to Geauxgurt
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some small school players
that's another thing that chaps my arse, there's a reason they weren't here in the first place
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:47 pm to ConcreteThreshold
Cool. Now explain why we should give a shite how he compares to NDs coach? I didn’t want Marcus Freeman as a HC.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:48 pm to CP3forMVP
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It's a good take.
disagree, respectfully of course
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:48 pm to Geauxgurt
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He's simply not a very good recruiter even with the LSU advantages compared to Notre Dame.
NIL has ruined the advantage LSU had over most teams.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:50 pm to Topwater Trout
Maybe, but LSU will always have an advantage over most being the only major in-state CFB destination. That advantage is not going away.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:51 pm to Geauxgurt
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The recruiting cycle is not over, true, but there is nothing that leads us to believe that Kelly and company is going to turn things around. They are already at 24 commits with all the big players done and many of the top players committed elsewhere.
What is there to turn around? LSU has a top 10 class for fricks sake.
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He's simply not a very good recruiter even with the LSU advantages compared to Notre Dame.
2023: 6th
2024: 10th
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He will continue to try and find some small school players to transfer in that aren't P5 level, and then claim LSU is just about a year away next year.
Does that same logic apply to Bernard-Converse and Gardner? They were fantastic for LSU last year as transfers.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:52 pm to 777Tiger
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that's another thing that chaps my arse, there's a reason they weren't here in the first place
There are reasons, all right, but they are not always the same reason. Sometimes it’s because a future NFL Hall of Famer was misevaluated.
There are 51 Div 2 players in the NFL HOF.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 3:55 pm to ConcreteThreshold
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Brian Kelly: 13-6 with 5 ranked losses to FSU (x2), Tennessee, Georgia, and Ole Miss. One unranked loss to A&M.
Think Florida State was unranked in 2022 season opener.
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