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re: LSU on Pace for 14 Total Errors in the Regular Season

Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:06 am to
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:06 am to
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Better hitters will put more balls in play and generally hit them harder. So both more chances and more difficult chances increase the probability of an error happening. Also there is just a general increase in the pressure for every individual play to be made.


Sure but I feel over the course of a season this is minimal at best. Maybe 1 full percentage point. Maybe.
Posted by ccarrone0313
Member since Jul 2021
1431 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:11 am to
Where is Magician? Come back and apologize to Johnson.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
2078 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:19 am to
Strikeouts help cut down on errors
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39525 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:22 am to
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LSU also overshifted at times last season in my opinion and he was caught out of position at times, but I'm not an analytics guy
You are dealing with college players and you don't have the data you have in MLB

Also, the shifts can depend on pitching a guy outside, for example. In MLB you can count on the pitcher putting the ball where he's supposed to. In college it's hit or miss.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67948 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:34 am to
Yeah I’m loving our pitching this year. Much better depth too
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:59 am to
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Sure but I feel over the course of a season this is minimal at best. Maybe 1 full percentage point. Maybe.


The lsu pitchers are striking off 46% of all the outs the team makes thru 12 games. That won’t hold.

Basic math is more chances, more errors.

The balls will start to be hit harder and the situations will get tighter.

Some of the fly balls will turn into 2b’s & HRs and such
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70398 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 11:02 am to
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Also, the shifts can depend on pitching a guy outside, for example. In MLB you can count on the pitcher putting the ball where he's supposed to. In college it's hit or miss.


This is the biggest reason I don't like the shift at lower levels.
Posted by Ryan3232
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25825 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 12:09 pm to
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Does competition really matters when it come to team fielding? What makes a great fielding team isn’t necessarily that they make great plays it’s that they make the routine plays consistently. No matter the competition you have the routine plays.
well sure, but we have played 7inning games 4 times this year due to 10 run rules. There have been a lot of strikeouts by our pitchers as well.

I’m pretty sure fielding % is calculated by errors over opportunities to make a play, but when looking at total errors, its lower for the reasons ive stated.
Posted by GeauxJZK
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
1625 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 12:12 pm to
Jinx much?
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9520 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 12:13 pm to
Nobody expects LSU to end the season fielding .990+

I think .980 is a realistic expectation for this team, and that is good enough to win a championship.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 12:23 pm to
Agreed
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36117 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 12:58 pm to
When your pitchers are striking out players, nit allowing base runners, and giving up lots of fly balls; you won’t see as many errors.

We should be tested once SEC begins.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10601 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Better pitching, less balls in play


Eh, through 12 games last year we had 119 strikeouts. This year we have 134. That's 15 less balls in play.
Posted by Lsudave89
Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
Member since Jun 2021
3527 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:39 pm to
A little bit off topic but with the new time saving constraints, one being the pitcher can only engage a base runner two times. I'm thinking that somewhere a strategy will be firmly developed to " apply stress" once the 2nd engagement has been made to induce errors by base-stealling attempts, etc... I'm sure the smart people have already worked this out but none the less it's something I'm interested in.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 3:40 pm
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:25 am to
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Some of the fly balls will turn into 2b’s & HRs and such


This has nothing to do with field percentage.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70398 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:30 am to
quote:

Eh, through 12 games last year we had 119 strikeouts. This year we have 134. That's 15 less balls in play.


We've also lost 6 innings worth of defensive chances to the mercy rule.

ETA: Maybe 8 innings, I don't remember off hand.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 11:31 am
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23115 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:38 am to
quote:

A little bit off topic but with the new time saving constraints, one being the pitcher can only engage a base runner two times. I'm thinking that somewhere a strategy will be firmly developed to " apply stress" once the 2nd engagement has been made to induce errors by base-stealling attempts, etc... I'm sure the smart people have already worked this out but none the less it's something I'm interested in.



The pitcher can still attempt a pick off as many times as he wants. He just can't keep faking a throw or step off the mound more than once to reset the pitch clock.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24773 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 2:45 pm to
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Eh, through 12 games last year we had 119 strikeouts. This year we have 134. That's 15 less balls in play.


You can add to that the 10 run rule games we had meant 5-6 fewer balls in play. Better pitching means fewer hits, which means fewer balls in play.

I also want to add that Gavin Dugas committed what should have been an error in shallow right, but Kling was there to pick the ball up and force the runner at second base. Kling has a cannon...
Posted by Lsudave89
Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
Member since Jun 2021
3527 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:49 pm to
Ah, Ok. Thanks. Maybe I'm getting the MLB hurry up new rules mixed up. Or perhaps just I'm wrong on both either way it's a little confusing with all the new implementations ( no shift in MLB this yr. I believe, permanent rule now to have runner on 2nd in extra innings,et) appreciate the clarity

Either way.... although the batting has been nice for me as well the dramatic increase of fielding competence and confidence has been clutch and a huge satisfaction as a fan.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19319 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:19 pm to
CJJ has been coaching the middle infielders, so if a coach is to get any credit, it's the head coach. Watching some of the fall scrimmages, pre & post games, he was out there in the middle of each play, instructing, etc. And he's not one to just throw out coach speak, so when he's saying JT has been "working his tail off", JT gets credit as well. For a freshman playing a tough position, Jones at first has looked smooth as well.
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