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re: LSU is in Offensive Re-build Mode Folks!

Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:21 pm to
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:21 pm to
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This is Miles' offense just ran out of Shotgun based set, same passing tree and power run. If you watch games SE called in 2016 compared to 2018, what is the difference??
You're right they still do some of the same shite that Miles/Cameron did, they just try to disguise it out of the RPO thinking that the average fan is to dumb to catch on. Lol "Let's tell them we're going to run a wide open attack" which is what the BS was coming out of Ensminger's mouth before the start of the season. But they're not fooling y'all just because you've added some modern concepts somewhat like the hurry up and lining up in a 3, 4 WR set sometimes, but still throw short routes with slant patterns being run mostly. LOL They can't even fool teams running the RPO because teams know by now how much LSU still loves to run the ball, they're looking for Burrow to hand it off. It's the same ole horse with a new saddle. LMAO
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 10:40 pm
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1520 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:12 am to
Remember Canada? It didn’t help last year!

Why? Because we still couldn’t block...

Need linemen that are big strong athletic and SMART....to do all that

Bama was in our backfield because they knew the plays...

To beat Bama you need an offensive that can recreate itself on a weeks notice...one that evolves and changes as the season progresses....

Ask yourself why our o line is so simple to scout?

Why are our plays so predictable?

It might be because of our “scheme”....but then ask yourself why such a young offensive line always seems to run such simple schemes? Why? Is it because they are not seasoned veterans? Or maybe they are not quick learners?

Maybe it’s not the coaches fault....why did Canada leave? Did he have a hard time teaching his complicated schemes? Why?


What do we have?
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 4:27 am
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 7:11 am to
I thought Canada did a good job last year.

You don't like scoring 10 points vs Bama but instead enjoying scoring 0 points? Canada had almost 300 yds on Bama.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34257 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:24 am to
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This was fast but inevitable


And poorly executed. booodeefanga is the real hero.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24251 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:32 am to
It's hilarious to me that some fans think any 2nd year coach should be able to beat the greatest coach of all time after he has been in Bama for 11 years building his system. There is not a coach that exists that could do that after only two seasons of recruiting/coaching.

Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:39 am to
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O makes these grandiose promises and then can't make good on them.


Routinely over promises and under delivers. Basically, the opposite way of making people think you're good at anything.

On the other hand, if you're a con-man, it's par for the course.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112292 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:40 am to
keep moving those goalposts buddy!
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12222 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:48 am to
And, so it shall forever be....
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14164 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:52 am to
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Maybe it’s not the coaches fault....why did Canada leave? Did he have a hard time teaching his complicated schemes? Why?


Come on man. You know why Canada left.

Canada never got the chance to fully implement his offense. I would've liked to have seen how the current team would look under Matt C's offense. There's no way it could be any worse than what we've got now. I still believe that Orgeron started to meddle with the offense and that's what led to the tension between Canada and O.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:53 am to
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2nd year coach


What's ED's record at LSU? If you include his interim, and you guys always seem to do that, then he's more than just a second year coach at LSU. In addition, he was an in-house hire, meaning he didn't just drop onto campus form somewhere else and had to get his feet wet. He literally just moved offices. He was hired LITERALLY so that he could hit the ground running because this was NOT a rebuild.**

Be honest...if you want to include his time as interim (I wouldn't, but than I consider that job wholly different than being the full time head coach) then this week's game against Arkansas will be his 31st game wearing the big boy headset. At what point CAN he be judged...?

**BTW...for those declaring this a rebuild now...who in their right mind would have hired Ed Orgeron to rebuild a Power 5 powerhouse program? What, at all, in his resume suggests he was capable of that? This new move actually begs more questions than it answers, guys.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11429 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:57 am to
Besides 2013, last time we had an O that was confident and could score at will was when George W Bush was President. Let that sink in.
Posted by LSUgrad1998
Member since Aug 2018
775 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:58 am to
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its funny how the propaganda machine gives Steve the benefit of the doubt, but the same courtesy wasn't given to Canada last year.


I am not a propaganda machine for this Coach or his staff. I watch a game closely, and see a OL that can't pass block or run block worth a Sh#t. Maybe this new OL coach we hired from the Chargers will be able to recruit better on the OL. Jeff Grimes surely didn't do much during his tenure here. So glad he left to be the OC at (4-5) BYU. Again, I don't care who LSU recruits at QB, RB, WR,and TE because it won't matter if the OL can't get the job done.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:05 am to
“ it’s hilarious to me that some fans think any second-year coach should be able to beat...”

One of the problems with that comment is there are really not many posters suggesting LSU should have beaten Bama only that LSU under the direction of Coach O and Coach E for two games played in Tiger Stadium should’ve been able to score against Bama.

Coach O came to LSU in 2015. He has recruited this area for years. He was is well known in this area. It’s amusing to me that some want to pretend as if he got off the plane from California or Minnesota in 2017 with no knowledge of LSU or Louisiana. He has been coaching at some level and recruiting for LSU for almost 4 years.

By the way, even if you want to do the Bama should be playing in the NFL and there is no college team in the country who can beat them thing, what about being 1-2 against a Florida program which has been struggling for a number of years?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57620 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:06 am to
People expect overnight success changing after a decade of the same offense.

There was always going to be speed bumps this year. If the offense still sucks against bama next year, we’ll talk
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 9:07 am
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12222 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:13 am to
Thanks, Obama...
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112292 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:28 am to
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If the offense still sucks against bama next year, we’ll talk about how its still too early to judge and that NEXT year is the real year we should look at then well talk



fify
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14397 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:44 am to
It is, bascially, the SAME damn offense, running the same DAMN plays. Last year was the outlier. Nothing has changed, otherwise. How long does Coach E. get to claim a mulligan because we are rebuilding, yet running the same stuff for the last TEN YEARS?
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11429 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:54 am to
Kicking can down the road
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57620 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:54 am to
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the SAME damn offense, running the same DAMN plays


It always amazes me how uninformed our fanbase is. Use your eyes fella
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14397 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:55 am to
Disagree, I'm ignorant.
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