re: Lost in all this is Dabo thanking God in Silicon Valley

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Dabo thanks God multiple times in antiGod country

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What are you talking about? Do you really think men could have developed semiconductors, Apple Computers and Teslas without divine intervention?

I believe the very fact Saban and Bama could be so thoroughly humbled in front of a national audience is living proof that God exists, and He is a just God and His presence was felt right there in San Jose, on that field.

Thank you Dabo!

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I appreciate the statements giving God the praise. Having said that, my opinion is anyone that thinks God cares about the winner of a football game for one team v. the other is just wrong.

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My friend, I'm pretty certain that every Christian here (myself included) agrees with you that one should not suggest that God is trying to influence the outcome of a game. And I don't see anyone suggesting that that was/is the case. Nor did Dabo say that God is pulling for Clemson.

Giving thanks to God is all about thanking Him for the opportunity and talent to be successful, as myself and others touched on earlier.

Do we hear these guys thanking God when they lose? Not really, but that's an area that most, if not all of us fail. How often do you think about thanking the Lord after a disappointment? I know I don't think about it nearly enough. It's almost always something that I have to make myself do well after the fact, when I remember that God's plan for me is bigger and better than whatever I planned for myself.

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What are you talking about? Do you really think men could have developed semiconductors, Apple Computers and Teslas without divine intervention?

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He was talking about Silicon Valley, and not the entire Unites States. Also, Silicon Valley today is not the same as it was over 100 years ago.

God's presence in this country is unmistakable, I agree. But I don't think that was the point of the OP.

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Y’all really watch too much Fox News

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You mean to tell me that honest, hard-working Christians AREN’T being murdered in the streets by godless liberal elites in Silicon Valley every day? You are fake news

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Slow your roll, man. Most Christians actually pray more in times of adversity. Athletes and coaches are quick to give glory in the good times, but make excuses in the bad times (we did not play to OUR ability tonight, they did nothing surprising, we just beat OURSELVES...etc.). I am not saying it’s wrong or right, I just never hear Dabo or Tua praising God or Jesus during loses. Admittedly, I do not thank Him enough during the good times, so I am definitely not the model Christian.

Again, show me where Dabo was thanking others last year or during losses. That’s all I was suggesting. He has done wonders and I would love for my child to go play with him. Just always curious as to why God is only praised by them when they win.

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You're talking about praying now, man. Yes, we all pray in times of adversity. Because we know we need help. That's not the same as taking the time to stop and PRAISE the Lord when something isn't going right.

These are two different things, entirely. My question to you was how often do any of us praise God when we're disappointed. Not often enough. It usually takes a cooling off period before we stop, think, and say "thank you Lord, anyway, because I know you're in control, and not me".

That's our flawed human nature. But it's easy for people who don't believe in God, or at least have very little faith, to forget to thank God when things go right, and give themselves all of the credit. It shows humility to thank God.

When we lose/fail, we tend to want to blame ourselves. Should we blame God? Obviously not. What we SHOULD do is have some perspective and thank God, regardless, but when we fail we just go straight into blaming ourselves. I don't see how that is in any way unique to athletes and coaches. I see that as very much part of the human condition, in general.

Praise in the good times, but not in adversity. Got it. I am just saying I can understand how non-believers would be skeptical after a speech like that when someone wins, but not hear a word about God when they lose. That’s all.

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Praise in the good times, but not in adversity. Got it. I am just saying I can understand how non-believers would be skeptical after a speech like that when someone wins, but not hear a word about God when they lose. That’s all.

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I hope you're not taking my words as we "shouldn't be expected" to praise Him in times of adversity. I'm merely pointing out that this is the tendency of most people, and not unique to public figures.

As for your point about non-believers being skeptical when they see this, I haven't seen or heard any non believer even raise this point. I'm not saying it's never happened, but it doesn't seem to be much of a point of emphasis, from my vantage point. I think non-believers tend to be much more skeptical if we give ourselves all of the credit for our successes.

As Christians, we are held to a higher standard, and we should strive to live up to that, because we are setting the example. So we should always praise the Lord. But we are nevertheless human, and prone to dwell on our mistakes and blame ourselves. But how well do we learn from our mistakes, and how quickly do we set aside our pride, when that pride is stung, to thank God?

If my point isn't clear, I'll sum it up in saying that I think it's a bit harsh to take a good man who did a good thing, and focus on what he hasn't done right. We should strive for perfection, but the fact is that we aren't perfect. I don't see non-believers doing anything but glorifying themselves in their success.

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There’s a goddam church on every corner, even in L.A And the Bay Area,

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Truth.

Op should leave his home state at least once.

Yes, those are the stock answers you hear at the end of the game, and it's all fine and dandy to be complimentary of those around you.

But then when the reporter ask's them a question about themselves, they tend to go on about "chip on my shoulder" "first one at practice, last one to leave", and on and on. Not that it doesn't take a lot of personal dedication to be good at something, but there are a lot of people who work just as hard but aren't blessed with the same natural gifts to cultivate. That comes from God. And the people I'm talking about think that it's all about them.