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re: Late Kick Live with Josh said an agent told him he believes the LSU job will be open
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:21 am to justice
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:21 am to justice
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We know you’ll be devastated your boy may be fired. It’s sad how fast he’s nosediving the program.
Only b/c my team will have sucked and the next 2-3 yrs will be rebuilding. So yeh I will be devastated that my team doesn't turn it around and doesn't need to replace the coach. Why every LSU fan wouldn't want that is beyond me.
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Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:21 am to Jay Quest
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I suspect LSU's next football head coach has a better than 50% chance of being a minority hire
I would hope they just pick the very best candidate for the job no matter what race he is. If they happen to be a minority so be it.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:24 am to Byrdybyrd05
This happened in 06/07 too.
Herbie's announcement got us stuck with Les for another decade.
Herbie's announcement got us stuck with Les for another decade.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:32 am to Byrdybyrd05
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I thought he was trying to say that the candidates will wait until the LSU comes open because it is a better job.
That makes a lot more sense. USC probably would like to find a new HC as soon as possible, but the coaches they will be targeting will:
-be coaching right now
-will also be looking at the LSU job
-could potentially get the 2 schools into a bidding war
I doubt USC will be making a hire anytime soon. They just wanted to prevent the possibility of Helton getting to 9+ wins and Saving his job
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 11:37 am
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:57 am to Alt26
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Woodward is the bozo that UNNECESSARILY gave O a big salary bump following the 2019 season (NO ONE was ever going to try to steal O away from LSU)
I'm not sure you understand how this works...
If Scotty DOESN'T give O a raise after 2019, its actually worse optics.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:00 pm to Byrdybyrd05
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Tom Herman fiasco
How was this a fiasco? Herman was offered the job, but he wanted the Texas job. Some of you look too hard to find drama.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:22 pm to Topwater Trout
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I will be devastated that my team doesn't turn it around and doesn't need to replace the coach
What gives you confidence that any kind of turnaround this season is sustainable beyond just this year?
He totally botched the two major coordinator hires he made last year, then got a total do over this year and got to hire 3 new coordinators and 3 new position coaches and those hires don't look like they're making one bit of difference. The team doesn't appear to be fundamentally sound, plays tentatively and with low energy, and looks lost at times.
I'm sorry, but when you keep changing coaches, but the team plays exactly the same, at some point you've got to look at the head coach as the main issue.
As for yours fears about a 2 to 3 year rebuild, the longer you wait, the longer that rebuild will take. Honestly, I think if we get the right guy hired, there won't even be much of a rebuild. The biggest plus in my mind for making the move this year is that the state is loaded with talent, so I don't expect the recruiting class to lose as many guys as we would in a year where we're relying on a lot of out of state guys.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:37 pm to Stevo
quote:Do you remember correctly what happened?
How was this a fiasco? Herman was offered the job, but he wanted the Texas job. Some of you look to hard to find drama.
Herman was announced the head coach on thanksgiving just before halftime. The half time show commenced with Mark May absolutely destroying our entire organization. Next thing you know, a former fired Ole Miss coach is our head coach.
So, I’m not sure what your definition of a fiasco is, but it was definitely a PR issue. Should it have been? No. Was ESPN or Mark may justified in absolutely thrashing us for offering a head coach a job? No. But that doesn’t change what was perceived and what transpired.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:37 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:nice scare tactics, Trout, but with the talent we have on the roster, and the elite recruiting that we'll still get with a new coach, the turnaround can be virtually instantaneous, with the right coach.
Only b/c my team will have sucked and the next 2-3 yrs will be rebuilding.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:39 pm to The Pirate King
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Not that it won’t happen, but an agent telling a media host something doesn’t mean much.
Unless LSU has reached out to said agent in regards to one of his clients.
It also means that said agent is telling his clients that the LSU job will be open.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:39 pm to Nexus of the Univers
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Is it just me or does that not make any sense...
Why would USC wait for the LSU job to open and allow their candidates to use the leverage?
I think the implication is that candidates might wait for the LSU job to open, basically forcing USC to wait as well.
If USC is able to find the guy they want, and that guy is already available, I can’t imagine USC would intentionally wait… that would be counterproductive as you mentioned.
That said, USC may not have much choice but to wait regardless. Not because of LSU, but because it’s hard to make a coaching hire in the middle of the season unless you are targeting a guy that isn’t currently coaching. Most candidates aren’t going to leave their current team high and dry 3 games into the year.
Which is part of the reason I feel like cutting bait early is overrated. Unless you are certain that you can get the guy you want right now to try and salvage the recruiting class, you might as well wait until later in the season.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:45 pm to atltiger6487
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nice scare tactics,
reality
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with the talent we have on the roster,
how many will stay and how many will leave? what makes you think they hate O? JB loved him
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the elite recruiting that we'll still get with a new coach
How the hell do you know this? Most of the kids we are currently recruiting and are committed have committed to O. This is one of the biggest problems with changing coaches is it hurts the first class.
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the turnaround can be virtually instantaneous, with the right coach.
no coach will come here saying what O said when he was hired...they will all say we will rebuild and it will take a few years.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:49 pm to Topwater Trout
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This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:51 pm to Byrdybyrd05
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for the LSU job like the Tom Herman fiasco Thanksgiving night. He also said that LSU is viewed as a bette thin then USC so people will wait on LSU if it became open. I never heard Scott Woodward being used or having egg on his face. I feel good that Woodward can make the right hire.
If you’re a coach, why would you rather USC over LSU? USC, while great, has really only had success lately with Pete Carroll. LSU has championships with Les Miles and Ed Orgeron. If they can win one, then any coach worth anything could do the same or better. And that’s playing in the SEC west, the toughest division in college football. And you can argue that winning a championship can’t save you from being fired for a few bad seasons. But in reality, the only reason Les Miles and probably Ed O are fired would be for pure incompetence and an unwillingness to adapt and adjust.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:52 pm to Nexus of the Univers
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Why would USC wait for the LSU job to open and allow their candidates to use the leverage?
Isn't the whole point of firing a coach this early to avoid a bidding war?
I believe he is saying agents will hold off until both jobs are open. That way they can have the two schools drive up the price for their client.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:52 pm to The Pirate King
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Not that it won’t happen, but an agent telling a media host something doesn’t mean much.
Very true unless the agent is Jimmy Sexton.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 12:57 pm to Jay Quest
That'll be worse than O
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:03 pm to abellsujr
I am the search.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:09 pm to abellsujr
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Not going to say that, but nobody I think moves the needle yet.
Kiffin says, "HEY"
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:15 pm to abellsujr
I remember very well. Sorry Queen, this was not a fiasco. In retrospect, it was dodging a bullet.
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