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re: “Lance Heard evaluating his role at LSU” per Kelly

Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
1642 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:20 pm to
The main problem with this is that he doesn’t need to sit out the game to evaluate his role. As good as he projects to be, I would still have a hard time talking him into staying on the team if I was BK.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279280 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:21 pm to
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make no mistake about it, all universities and these private companies work hand-in-hand and one doesn't act without the other knowing about it. That's the only way it works.


Everyone knows that.

They still have zero control & power. If, as a player, you are good enough to garner an NIL deal, you will always have the power.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39666 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:22 pm to
Sure you can. A contractual agreement between the school and the athlete doesn’t have to be tied to his NIL. A pro athlete can have deals with shoe companies that have no bearing on their player contracts.

And there’s nothing stopping the NCAA from stepping in and regulating NIL in the future. Eventually something like this will have to happen.

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279280 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:23 pm to
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A contractual agreement between the school and the athlete doesn’t have to be tied to his NIL.


They already have that. It’s called a scholarship
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5106 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:25 pm to
Yes, the NCAA could help things by restoring the former rules requiring players to sit out a year when transfering, but they would be pummeled with lawsuits within a few hours. You can't grant a right and then take it back.

The transfer portal was never the problem, the immediate eligibility was what caused the dam to break. The portal would be far, far smaller if players had to sit out a year. The NCAA completely botched it, and there's no going back.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39666 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:27 pm to
Ok? I’m clearly talking about something different than the current system to better protect all stakeholders in this process, but if being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian is THAT important to you, by all means carry on.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56325 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:27 pm to
Gotta be nice to have teams calling offering money and a starting spot in the lineup
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39666 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:29 pm to
There’s definitely no going back to what we had before, but there’s certainly things that could be done to fix the issues. The schools will demand it.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
8291 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:30 pm to
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Renegotiating his NIL. If these kids want to get paid like adults, they should be held accountable like adults. Make them sign a contract.


Do you think he didn't sign a contract to fulfill his NIL responsibilities?
Posted by DesertCajun
New Mexico
Member since Mar 2007
647 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:30 pm to
The NIL version of a holdout except its not pre-season.
You are playing for your team and teammates to achieve a 10 win season. Guess that's not important to you. Its a choice but its a bad one
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37219 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:30 pm to
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He can’t play a game and think about it before and afterwards?


He gets hurt, his value goes down.

College football, late 2023, here we are
Posted by chewstick
Member since Oct 2009
1419 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:32 pm to
If the players and patrons could agree to a longer contract of incentives and vice versa then I could see that working. Ultimately however the transfer portal and immediate playing time is the bargaining chip that needs to be regulated for the benefit of everybody involved, including the players.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 1:32 pm
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54263 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:32 pm to
How exhausting is it to be a college coach now?

You have to recruit and also recruit your own team every year.
Posted by logansrun
Amite
Member since Dec 2015
1829 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:33 pm to
Not showing up says he's gone.
Posted by chewstick
Member since Oct 2009
1419 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:33 pm to
They get more than fairly compensated however
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5106 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:36 pm to
True, NIL needs to be regulated, but no one seems to know how that would work. You can't restrict how much money a player can make on an NIL deal, so what can you do?

Make them employees? Give them revenue sharing? The NCAA can't and won't solve this. Congress is probably the most logical route, but I'm not sure they know what to do, either.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64795 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:37 pm to
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his NIL responsibilities


Does actually playing in a game for your team count?
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25722 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:38 pm to
Did anybody hear Jordy this morning saying he heard Ole Miss is paying players in the transfer portal 20% more then what they are asking for so they can’t say no to them?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27110 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:39 pm to
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Yes, the NCAA could help things by restoring the former rules requiring players to sit out a year when transfering, but they would be pummeled with lawsuits within a few hours. You can't grant a right and then take it back.


It was all in the way it was handled. The NCAA is still in control of the eligibility clock and that has never been challenged. 5 to play 4 is the rule and has been the rule for a long time. The extra eligibility that has been given - 6th or 7th years - has all been voluntary, not forced through the courts. They should have handled the transfers by using the eligibility clock and causing players to lose years.

Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14668 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:40 pm to
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We will pick up the conversations with him and his family after the bowl game
Just gotta stall until the portal closes on Tuesday.

Of course, doubt the NCAA would enforce anything it's after the transfer window closes.
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