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re: Kirby Smart (Joe Brady related)
Posted on 1/14/20 at 10:01 pm to AcetylCoA
Posted on 1/14/20 at 10:01 pm to AcetylCoA
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Burrow was here in 2018 bud
And as Ensminger said, we could not have run this offense with the talent we had in 2018. We could not protect the QB bullshite about covering offensive line deficiencies with a spread scheme. That’s nonsense. Also, our receivers were freshmen who had to mature.
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 10:03 pm to Tiger Ree
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Chances are we will never see another season like this in our lifetimes
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And this is whether Joe Brady stayed or not.
This is the really shitty part to me. People will judge everything against the most prolific passing offense in history. Some regression next year was inevitable, which basically dooms both Ensminger and Brennan to failure in the eyes of LSU fans unless we win another natty.
I hope I’m wrong, though.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 10:22 pm to AcetylCoA
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Burrow was here in 2018 bud
He sure was, and was running the remnents of Les Miles Prehistoric Dinosaur offense. Give him an updated offense which he ran in high school and at OSU, then he was in his comfort zone, coupled with his talents in that type of scheme is why you saw him put that many yards.
Its very simple, how may yards Burrow had this year 5,650 approx and 60 TD. Unreal. Now, put Burrow in Les Miles last full year pathetic offense, running to passing at 60/40%. With 70 plays per game that is 42 runs and 28 passes. At 65% comp percentage = 18 completions at 8 yards per completion = 144 yards per game = SAD compared to 2019. Now, since we would be predictable passing (RUN, RUN, PASS, PUNT Les Miles offense) Burrow would not be in the 70% range, and with so few passes (even giving him a generous 8 yards per completion)
Its the scheme that brought Burrow to the forefront and his superior talent for that scheme
Posted on 1/14/20 at 10:25 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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He stated very clearly that they run a lot of the same plays that we run, we are just better at executing them because of our superior talent at WR and and unbelievable QB.
He made that statement purely for recruiting purposes. To state it's simply about the players is, in fact, throwing Fromm under the bus along with the receivers he recruited over the last couple of years. He being highly scrutinized here in Georgia so it makes since for him to down-play what LSU is doing versus what UGA did this season.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 10:27 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Brady brought a professional approach that quite frankly we have never had before. But you are right. It wasn't the schemes so much as the prep. The study.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 10:31 pm to justsaygeaux2
Ohh it was def the schemes AND the prep
Brady knows how to attack a defense
Now when you have this offense it makes him look like a g o d of but Brady def knows whay he's doing
Brady knows how to attack a defense
Now when you have this offense it makes him look like a g o d of but Brady def knows whay he's doing
Posted on 1/14/20 at 10:33 pm to cubs20161214
Did Brady take his binder with him? If not, we OK.
Seriously to all stating that Brady was the sole reason we had such a great offense, tell me, How good would it have been if Burrow only practiced that offense during the weeks of practice prior to the season?
He and the receivers practiced all off season. The plays are now common knowledge with the team. Brennan knows the offense. It will depend on Brennan and wide receivers.
Seriously to all stating that Brady was the sole reason we had such a great offense, tell me, How good would it have been if Burrow only practiced that offense during the weeks of practice prior to the season?
He and the receivers practiced all off season. The plays are now common knowledge with the team. Brennan knows the offense. It will depend on Brennan and wide receivers.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:19 pm to AcetylCoA
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Burrow was here in 2018 bud, also we losing Burrow too.
You're right, Burrow was here in 2018. However, he got here late and never had an opportunity to learn the offense before the fall or to gel with the receivers.
However, in 2018, as Ensminger has said, they didn't know who the new receivers would be or who the running backs would be, or even what the offensive line would consist of. Cause we had lost the majority of the offense the season before. Which is why ESPN and everybody else picked LSU to finish 6 & 6 and for Ed O to be fired at the end of the season.
Hence, of course, Burrow wasn't what he was in 2018 what he was this season after an entire year off to gel with his receivers and to build chemistry and to practice the new offense during the offseason. He didn't have that luxury in 2018.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:07 am to St Augustine
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Was this year simply the result of a getting a great QB, a good modern system, and mixing in our typical highly regarded skilled talent?
All of the above, plus an extra year for them all to put in work and develop chemistry.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 1:25 am to WaWaWeeWa
We had all these players last year minus moss and we didn’t even get close to these numbers... clearly Brady exponentially increased our players potential and stats.
To make an extreme example of les miles has these players guarantee we wouldn’t have even made it.. innovation and scheme are more important than you give it credit
To make an extreme example of les miles has these players guarantee we wouldn’t have even made it.. innovation and scheme are more important than you give it credit
Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:12 am to WaWaWeeWa
I agree to an extent. It’s not like we were running some gimmicky offense.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:08 am to WaWaWeeWa
Well look at it this way. Carolina just hired a guy with little to zero offensive coordinator experience, because a perennial underachieving offensive side of the ball team just blew the doors off the NCAA record books, the minute he showed up. Remember Joe Burrows preseason predictions? Did Ensminger suddenly have some kind of epiphany.....no, because Carolina would have called him instead. We are losing a lot here.
Joe Burrow said he ran this same offense in high school, maybe we should be looking for his high school coach.
Joe Burrow said he ran this same offense in high school, maybe we should be looking for his high school coach.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:36 am to WaWaWeeWa
Let’s be honest, Kirby meant from now on we will be running the same plays, that dude is FOS
Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:50 am to WaWaWeeWa
Much of that is true. Bama has about five pass plays. They run them from ten different formations. So it looks like they have 50 plays
So sarkesian and Kiffin before him had similar schemes.
The key decision was going to the spread RPO. A lot of people can coach it.
As far as LSU in 2019. Great talent at WR TE and RB. They put in the work. Burrow led them. Burrow had more than Arm. Processing, Courage, Work ethic. Plus Oline coming together.
Anyway. The in game adjustments, pre snap reads, and processing very rare.
So sarkesian and Kiffin before him had similar schemes.
The key decision was going to the spread RPO. A lot of people can coach it.
As far as LSU in 2019. Great talent at WR TE and RB. They put in the work. Burrow led them. Burrow had more than Arm. Processing, Courage, Work ethic. Plus Oline coming together.
Anyway. The in game adjustments, pre snap reads, and processing very rare.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:05 am to WaWaWeeWa
What Brady brought is exactly what Sean Salisbury said they could have done long before they hired Brady when he was campaigning for a job himself. He said E wasn't the problem but LSU needed someone to install spread concepts and modernize the offense. O recruited some great players to execute a modernized offense and great things happened. It's exactly what most fans thought could happen had Miles elected to do the same thing.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:23 am to WaWaWeeWa
It also has to do with LSU not having to substitute to run different plays. We were able to run multiple plays out of the same set.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:27 am to WaWaWeeWa
Very good post.
We ran an excellent offensive scheme, but the kicker was that we did it with the best crew of skilled talent ever put on the field by a single college team. (And a tremendous O line to boot).
We ran an excellent offensive scheme, but the kicker was that we did it with the best crew of skilled talent ever put on the field by a single college team. (And a tremendous O line to boot).
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:45 am to memphis tiger
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:53 am to AcetylCoA
quote:Regarding that, during the NCG media day Burrow was asked why the offense was so much better this year.
Burrow was here in 2018 bud
His answer was not Joe Brady.
His answer was last year coming into fall camp LSU's receivers were young and inexperienced, and because he arrived late from OSU, Burrow only got to work with them a few weeks prior to the season. He said if LSU was running last year's offense, we'd still be putting up big numbers because the QB and receivers are in now sync.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:21 pm to That LSU Guy
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It also has to do with LSU not having to substitute to run different plays. We were able to run multiple plays out of the same set.
This is a very key component of the philosophy and scheme. To that end, any new formation implemented needs to have the same ability to run multiple run and pass plays out of it.
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