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Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:12 pm to Bawser
You appear to be talking about the FG that put us ahead, not the insurance.
NVM - this thread isn't going to go well for you.
NVM - this thread isn't going to go well for you.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:12 pm to Penrod
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We had about a 60% chance of making a 42 yard FG. What were the chances of converting the fourth down? About the same? Even if you convert it your chances of scoring points are about 75%. Your overall chance of scoring if you go for it is 0.6 x 0.75 = 45%.
So you have a 60% chance of taking the lead by kicking a FG, and a 45% chance of taking the lead if you go for fourth down. Of course, your situation is much better if you score after converting, because you might be up by more than a FG and there would be less time left. Rather complicated, but I'd say it was about an even bet. I would not have blamed O for the call either way.
What is our FG percentage 40+ yards this year? Or for any field goals for that matter?
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:12 pm to Bawser
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You're focusing on the wrong point - my point is that we had a higher percentage to make a half yard conversion versus kicking a 42 yard field goal.
Try to keep up.
You sure are arrogant for an idiot.
The bottom line is it's the same result if we get stuffed or if we miss the FG. What if we convert and then miss a short FG? What if we convert and then turn it over? What if we go for it and get stuffed like they did earlier in the game? The real bottom line is he made the kick and we won.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:13 pm to Bawser
Don’t forget to submit your weekly film review to coach, you are the edge we need to get through these last 5 games.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:13 pm to Bawser
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Any other coach
And by any other coach, you're talking about Guz' decision to go for it on 4th with less than a yard... oh wait, he punted, because he's a coach and knows what he's doing.
We won. Bitch about Joe Alleva. Literally anything and everything negative said about him is going to be accurate.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:14 pm to Bawser
I thought the decision to seemingly play for the FG there was dumb. LSU had it 1st-10 at the AU 35 with just under 7:00 minutes to go. LSU was trailing by 2. They then ran 3 conservative plays milking roughly 3:00 off the clock. I would have rather seen them be more aggressive in that series and try to get a TD vs. seemingly settling for a FG attempt and running clock. The reason is:
A. A FG still only put you up by one, thus still allowing a one of the best kickers in the SEC to potentially beat you with a FG.
B. LSU's kickers have been shaky (at best) and you essentially conceded a 40+ yarder by going conservative. If he misses, you've run down the clock an are still losing
Hindsight is 20/20, but I would have rather keep the ball in my offense's hands vs. essentially playing for a FG and still allowing a FG to beat you at the the end.
However, once LSU didn't convert the 3rd down, I think the choice to kick the FG was right. If you don't convert on 4th vs. one of the best defenses in the SEC, then you've just run the clock down to 3:00 and passed on a shot to take the lead. If you are going to essentially play for a FG in that particular series of downs (which LSU did by valuing running time off the clock vs. trying to push for a TD), then you have to try the FG. Otherwise, you stay aggressive on the 3 previous plays
A. A FG still only put you up by one, thus still allowing a one of the best kickers in the SEC to potentially beat you with a FG.
B. LSU's kickers have been shaky (at best) and you essentially conceded a 40+ yarder by going conservative. If he misses, you've run down the clock an are still losing
Hindsight is 20/20, but I would have rather keep the ball in my offense's hands vs. essentially playing for a FG and still allowing a FG to beat you at the the end.
However, once LSU didn't convert the 3rd down, I think the choice to kick the FG was right. If you don't convert on 4th vs. one of the best defenses in the SEC, then you've just run the clock down to 3:00 and passed on a shot to take the lead. If you are going to essentially play for a FG in that particular series of downs (which LSU did by valuing running time off the clock vs. trying to push for a TD), then you have to try the FG. Otherwise, you stay aggressive on the 3 previous plays
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:15 pm to Bawser
LSU had 11 runs between the tackles that were less than 2 yards (when a middle run wasn't guaranteed). And you think that's a higher percentage play than a 42-yard field goal?
You either really good at trolling or really bad at football. I'm going with the latter.
You either really good at trolling or really bad at football. I'm going with the latter.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:15 pm to Bawser
You are retarded
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:15 pm to Bawser
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My call is the right call.
No, no it's not at all, but we appreciate your "OPINION"!
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:16 pm to Alt26
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I thought the decision to seemingly play for the FG there was dumb. LSU had it 1st-10 at the AU 35 with just under 7:00 minutes to go. LSU was trailing by 2. They then ran 3 conservative plays milking roughly 3:00 off the clock. I would have rather seen them be more aggressive in that series and try to get a TD vs. seemingly settling for a FG attempt and running clock. The reason is:
A. A FG still only put you up by one, thus still allowing a one of the best kickers in the SEC to potentially beat you with a FG.
B. LSU's kickers have been shaky (at best) and you essentially conceded a 40+ yarder by going conservative. If he misses, you've run down the clock an are still losing
Hindsight is 20/20, but I would have rather keep the ball in my offense's hands vs. essentially playing for a FG and still allowing a FG to beat you at the the end.
However, once LSU didn't convert the 3rd down, I think the choice to kick the FG was right. If you don't convert on 4th vs. one of the best defenses in the SEC, then you've just run the clock down to 3:00 and passed on a shot to take the lead. If you are going to essentially play for a FG in that particular series of downs (which LSU did by valuing running time off the clock vs. trying to push for a TD), then you have to try the FG. Otherwise, you stay aggressive on the 3 previous plays
Thanks for some real feedback, other than acting like a 3 year old.
I respect your opinion.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:16 pm to Bawser
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Yes, we may have stopped them. But statistically we're playing into their hands by giving them field position by kicking a field goal we shouldn't have.
You're focusing on the wrong point - my point is that we had a higher percentage to make a half yard conversion versus kicking a 42 yard field goal.
Try to keep up.
In your assessment you've forgotten to take into account the players. We didn't have a higher chance of making that play and failed trying to make a yard or less multiple times in the game. Auburns D absolutely destroyed the line of scrimmage when they sold out against the run and there's no chance in hell LSU was gonna do a pass play on 4th and short.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:17 pm to Alt26
I disagree that the series and milking the clock was dumb. The word gets overused in football but our defense dominated the end of the game. We had all the momentum and Auburn was low energy. Why let them get back in the game by holding us on 4th down?
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:17 pm to Bawser
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other than acting like a 3 year old.
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My call is the right call
Yeah.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:18 pm to Bawser
ICYWW, Culp was 1/2 on field goals of 40-49 coming in and LSU is 4/8 on 4th down conversions this year. So your whole "playing the percentages" argument is out the window.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:18 pm to jmon
There was no absolute best call there. It was a tough decision which is why we had to burn a timeout.
Those are the calls where a coach makes his money. Coach O made the right call because it worked.
Those are the calls where a coach makes his money. Coach O made the right call because it worked.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:18 pm to Bawser
How miserable are you? Seriously.
As for your premise. Just dumb.
Culp has only missed one kick all year, and that was from 47 yards. Later in that game, he nailed a 45 yarder and had just made a 38 yard kick on the road against Florida. Every single one of his field goal attempts have been right down the middle.
42 yards was definitely in his range and he proved that to be true.
As for your premise. Just dumb.
Culp has only missed one kick all year, and that was from 47 yards. Later in that game, he nailed a 45 yarder and had just made a 38 yard kick on the road against Florida. Every single one of his field goal attempts have been right down the middle.
42 yards was definitely in his range and he proved that to be true.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:18 pm to Team Vote
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I feel sorry for you that you hate one of the best moments in LSU history because your superior football mind thinks it was a bad call.
Go route with 7 seconds left instead of a 38 yard field goal? That doesn’t require a “superior football mind”
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:20 pm to Bawser
quote:Huh?
I think we can all agree. Any other coach would have gone for it with 4th and less than a yard.
I'm not saying no other coach might have gone for it. I half expected to go for it.
But you're just pulling that shite out of your arse.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:22 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
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Gus made the right decision there. Other than a couple big plays LSU made Auburns defense played lights out. In the second half LSU's offense really didn't do too much. If Auburn didn't get it LSU would have had a short field to take the lead.
I suppose. I just know we were all relieved to see them punt. It felt like they would have gotten one yard. Idk if it was even a full yard. I don't know why teams don't just sneak. It's probably my favorite play on anything a yard or less.
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