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re: Johnny Jones was fired on Friday, March 10, 2017
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:28 am to WaydownSouth
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:28 am to WaydownSouth
As long as it happens by October I'll be fine
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:28 am to WaydownSouth
there's no reason to wait. Get it done and let it be known we're looking.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:36 am to JimTiger72
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Another year of wait & see and then someone like Beard, Drew, or Wade might be more available next year
How so? LSU's football expenses will be the same, likely higher. And ALL of those guys will still have big contracts at their current schools...even if they would be willing to consider a change.
If money is the issue for LSU that situation doesn't change next year. Is there a single fricking intelligent person involved in this who understands that? Kiffin's salary will still be there. As will BK's buyout. The $40M football roster you bought will now cost as much, maybe more. The assistant coaches will cost as much, probably more if you want to keep them from taking another job. MM's buyout will go down by a year, but that will be offset because LSU will have to pay a bit more for a staff this season and more for a roster. ALL while the non-TV revenues decrease because the fans will continue to stop attending.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:38 am to WaydownSouth
Will Wade was fired by LSU on March 13, 2022. He was hired by McNeese on March 11, 2023.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:41 am to Alt26
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And ALL of those guys will still have big contracts at their current schools...even if they would be willing to consider a change.
If money is the issue for LSU that situation doesn't change next year.
It gets significantly less expensive next year for Wade.
Beard (13-19) & Drew (16-16) aren’t making the NCAAT this year, so their market isn’t high this cycle even though they come with a high price
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:59 am to Pelican fan99
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What does that have to do with firing McMahon
Everything. At this point, it seems obvious that the appetite to buyout McMahon is only there if we can land Wade.
Would like to see him gone regardless, but it feels like the money will only be there if Wade is the hire.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:00 am to Big4SALTbro
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I see a world where we let the first round play out before we fire him
There is no point in waiting until the 1st round is over. McMahon needs to be gone this week whether we hire a coach whose team is in the NCAA tournament or we hire one of the homeless guys on College Dr.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:02 am to JimTiger72
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It gets significantly less expensive next year for Wade.
If Wade follows up year 2 in Raliegh the way he has done at every other stop in his career, he'll come with a $5-6MM a year price tag next year. The assumption that his buyout is going to drop may not be accurate, it is certainly possible depending on what he does in the next 2 weeks that he could get a raise and extension from NCST this year that includes a new buyout.
If you are going to get Wade, it will be this year.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:02 am to JimTiger72
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It gets significantly less expensive next year for Wade.
His buyout drops from $3M (after 4/1/26) to $2M (after 4/1/27). A whopping ONE million dollars. However, his salary increases (slightly) for next year. That's assuming he doesn't negotiate a new contract...which is likely. It WILL NOT be cheaper to get Wade next season.
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Beard (13-19) & Drew (16-16) aren’t making the NCAAT this year, so their market isn’t high this cycle even though they come with a high price
We are talking about next year. Both have had success in their careers. That means it is likely each has a better season next year. Which means their market value goes right back up. Plus, BOTH negotiated significant raises/extensions after last year. Each is making (at least) $6M per year. They aren't leaving to take something less than that. And that (wrongly) assumes LSU would be the only major conf. school in the market.
Again, if "waiting until next year" for cost purposes is a plan, then that confirms no one with actual fricking sense is involved in this thing. It's NOT getting cheaper next year.
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 9:04 am
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:04 am to Alt26
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We are talking about next year. Both have had success in their careers. That means it is likely each has a better season next year. Which mean their market value goes right back up. Plus, BOTH negotiated significant raises/extensions after last year. Each is making (at least) $6M per year. They aren't leaving to take something less than that. And that (wrongly) assuming LSU would be the only major conf. school in the market.
Again, if "waiting until next year" for cost purposes is a plan, the that confirms no one with actual fricking sense is involved in this thing. It's NOT getting cheaper next year.
As for Beard, I'm pretty sure he has a $4.5MM buyout this year and it drops to $3MM next year. He certainly isn't cheaper than the options at this point.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:09 am to Alt26
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It's NOT getting cheaper next year.
Technically it is & CMM buyout would also be less.
Unfortunately the reality is that if they don’t make a move this year, then it means the $ isn’t there. Maybe it is next year although I’d imagine support would be at an all time low
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:13 am to ellessuuuu
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Everything. At this point, it seems obvious that the appetite to buyout McMahon is only there if we can land Wade.
Would like to see him gone regardless, but it feels like the money will only be there if Wade is the hire.
Which is mind-numbingly stupid because you are not getting Wade next year at this year's price.
Plus, this year could be a REALLY good market for LSU. Right now, the only two SEC program who potentially will be in the market are LSU and Oklahoma. It could be just LSU because OU has gotten hot down the stretch. The SEC and Big 10 are the big players in the coaching marketplace because, financially, those conferences have separated from the pack. Right now there are no Big 10 teams in the marketplace and of the ones that MIGHT be, only Oregon is one that would probably be on the same level as LSU. Thus, LSU could be one of the more attractive jobs in the market this year. That almost assuredly won't be the case next year.
In someways LSU has fallen arse-backwards into being in a good spot to make a coaching change. However, it may be that none of the morons in the athletic department realize it.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:14 am to WaydownSouth
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Safe to say if it does not happen by tomorrow, we will be stuck with this clown for another year.
Absolutely false. Calm down. Be patient. Things do not always happen on the timeline that you want them to. Trust the people in charge.
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Absolutely no reason to wait, when you can start having discussions with coaches who aren't in the tournament
Do we necessarily want someone who is not in the tournament to come?
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Matt Braeuer
Who?
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:15 am to tarzana
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If McMahon is given a fifth year with the Bayou Bengals we're potentially exploring depths never before probed.
I do not want to explore those depths.
I understand the buyout hesitation and concerns about donor fatigue. But on the other hand, they are going to lose a fortune throwing good money after bad if they don't pull the plug now.
Keeping McMahon creates 3 lose-lose dynamics:
1. Fan interest further down the tubes. Disinterest in the program and they will start next season with fans giving less of a sh*t than ever.
2. NIL. No matter what they spend, fans will bitch. Too little? "Hell, what's the point, should've given that to football/baseball." Too much? "Good grief, I can't believe we're dumping X million into this dog shite program?"
3. The rest of the league is only getting better, or at least treading water. We will sink further.
They have to make a move. Nuts to keep what we've got.
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 9:16 am
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:19 am to JohnnyU
quote:Alleva didn't "Target" anybody. It was all Nunez that found Wade.....
Alleva and Nunez targeted Wade early.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:19 am to JimTiger72
His buy out isn’t really less. We would actually be paying a 20% plus premium if he coaches next year. The terms are still the same he is getting 80% of the remaining contract. It will cost us more to keep him since we have to pay his full salary. MM is a sunk cost, this would be different if say next year his buyout was significantly reduced in percent. Plus with basketball only making like 1-2M profit, if enough people cancel season tickets and even less show up this year there is a possibility that it doesn’t break even.
MM being sent packing should happen regardless if Wade comes or not.
I do think there is a solid chance we end up in limbo until next Sunday. If we don’t release something saying he is staying in the next few days I’ll have more confidence we are moving on.
The portal does open on March 24th so we will need to know sooner rather than later if we are keeping him.
I also don’t see anyway we get Wade next year for cheaper. He will cost more since it’s likely he improves nc state more
MM being sent packing should happen regardless if Wade comes or not.
I do think there is a solid chance we end up in limbo until next Sunday. If we don’t release something saying he is staying in the next few days I’ll have more confidence we are moving on.
The portal does open on March 24th so we will need to know sooner rather than later if we are keeping him.
I also don’t see anyway we get Wade next year for cheaper. He will cost more since it’s likely he improves nc state more
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:20 am to JimTiger72
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Technically it is & CMM buyout would also be less.
Unfortunately the reality is that if they don’t make a move this year, then it means the $ isn’t there. Maybe it is next year although I’d imagine support would be at an all time low
Technically, it's not. As we sit here today it appears to be cheaper next year. But the fallacy in this position is that it ignores the reality that things will change between now and then. We will want to hire a coach that is successful, then the chances of that coach's buyout and pay being less or even the same today than next March is very low.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:24 am to JimTiger72
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JimTiger72
“LSU 12-1 in December 2026”
“Guys, THIS is the year McMahon turns it around.”
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:28 am to JimTiger72
quote:This is so dumb. If you have the chance to snag Wade this year no way do you not take it. You would easily make up the extra money with all the new interest in the program
It gets significantly less expensive next year for Wade.
There is no telling where things will stand in a year from now
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:28 am to NIH
12 double digit wins over SWAC fodder, including a comeback win over prairie view
1 24 point loss to middling big 12 opponent
“Guys, it’s just one game against a probable final four team (that finishes 3 games above.500) Look at the body of work!”
1 24 point loss to middling big 12 opponent
“Guys, it’s just one game against a probable final four team (that finishes 3 games above.500) Look at the body of work!”
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