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re: Joe Burrow v. Pat MahomesPosted by boxcar willie on 2/4/20 at 11:54 am to GoatBurrow
I have compared him to a more mobile Tom Brady and also to a taller Drew Brees. Also compares to a less mobile but more accurate Lamar Jackson. Just so many NFL quarterbacks he can be compared to
re: Joe Burrow v. Pat MahomesPosted by Buckeye Jeaux on 2/4/20 at 12:21 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
quote:You're acting like throwing fire is a huge advantage. It was 30 years ago. Passing offenses are more about finesse now. Look at Brees and Brady and Burrow.
And Allen is widely regarded as having one of the strongest arms in the NFL.
Burrow is just coming off the greatest season for a college QB in the history of the game. And you insist that people proclaim Mahomes as a better QB? Because he throws too hard? Has no touch? lucked in to a ready-made Andy Reid offense?
Sorry. Count me out on that nonsense.
re: Joe Burrow v. Pat MahomesPosted by SammyTiger on 2/4/20 at 12:35 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
1. Burrow throws a lot of passes down field I would Lump him in with two guys in the end of their career.
2. Big and accurate arms are still more usually than small accurate arms. Teams just get by with smart QBs that make up for their diminishing arm strength with intelligence and accuracy (FWIW Mahomes has a better Comp. % than Brady the last two season while throwing more passes downfield.)
Neither of these is true.
You just equate them to arm strength as an excuse.
2. Big and accurate arms are still more usually than small accurate arms. Teams just get by with smart QBs that make up for their diminishing arm strength with intelligence and accuracy (FWIW Mahomes has a better Comp. % than Brady the last two season while throwing more passes downfield.)
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Because he throws too hard? Has no touch?
Neither of these is true.
You just equate them to arm strength as an excuse.
This post was edited on 2/4 at 12:37 pm
re: Joe Burrow v. Pat MahomesPosted by TigerLunatik on 2/4/20 at 12:43 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Burrow is just coming off the greatest season for a college QB in the history of the game.
And Mahomes just became the youngest player ever to win an MVP and a Superbowl MVP.
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lucked in to a ready-made Andy Reid offense
The same could be said about Burrow in Brady's offense. In fact, a bunch of idiots have been saying this over on the SEC Rant.
re: Joe Burrow v. Pat MahomesPosted by Bayou_Tiger_225 on 2/4/20 at 12:49 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:I never insisted anything This whole thing started when I said I would take Mahomes over Burrow if I was starting a team. Which was my opinion.
And you insist that people proclaim Mahomes as a better QB? Because he throws too hard? Has no touch? lucked in to a ready-made Andy Reid offense?
You get mad at people for saying you can't have you own opinion(you on page 5)
quote:yet lose your mind when people have an opinion that differs from yours. Time and time again people on the board see you act this way. You are the only person in this thread to mentioned Goat and Mahomes in the same sentence. Nobody was calling him that. Some people disagreed with the idea that Burrow was already significantly better than Burrow, but that's it. Nobody said Burrow was bad. Nobody said Burrow would be a bust. In fact, the two posters you keep disagreeing with have called Burrow the Goat multiple times in this thread.
You state YOUR opinion, and I'll state my opinion. But don't be so presumptuous as to tell ME what MY opinion is
But I'm done going round and round with you. If you actually do leave after Burrow is drafted, this board will be a better place.
re: Joe Burrow v. Pat MahomesPosted by TigerLunatik on 2/4/20 at 12:51 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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I'm done going round and round with you.
But, it's so interesting to read. I need more!
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re: Joe Burrow v. Pat MahomesPosted by SammyTiger on 2/4/20 at 12:52 pm to TigerLunatik
Calling either a “system QB” is dumb.
All QBs are better in better offenses. That’s why they’re better offenses, but both Burrow and Mahomes do thinks that arent system related. They’re just talent related.
Joe being able to put a ball exactly in the right spot has nothing to do with his system.
Mahomes arm strength doesn’t go away if you changed his coach.
I’m a huuuuuuge Joe Burrow fan. I don’t Think there is any ceiling to his potential.
I just think the logic that “he was the best in college so he will be the best in the pros” is pretty dumb as is downplaying A guy who’s won an MVP, Superbiwl MVP and passed for over 9000 yards and 76 TDS in his first 2 season as a starter.
All QBs are better in better offenses. That’s why they’re better offenses, but both Burrow and Mahomes do thinks that arent system related. They’re just talent related.
Joe being able to put a ball exactly in the right spot has nothing to do with his system.
Mahomes arm strength doesn’t go away if you changed his coach.
I’m a huuuuuuge Joe Burrow fan. I don’t Think there is any ceiling to his potential.
I just think the logic that “he was the best in college so he will be the best in the pros” is pretty dumb as is downplaying A guy who’s won an MVP, Superbiwl MVP and passed for over 9000 yards and 76 TDS in his first 2 season as a starter.
re: Joe Burrow v. Pat MahomesPosted by TigerLunatik on 2/4/20 at 12:56 pm to SammyTiger
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I’m a huuuuuuge Joe Burrow fan.
We all are. He's the most beloved LSU athlete ever. Just the fact that this has to be repeated over and over shows the level of ridiculousness on this board.
I didn’t say 4.9 I said 4.83 and Cam Newton ran 4.56 not 4.59. You know what your posts show? That you’re just making all this up and have no idea what you’re talking about. Outrunning LBs and safeties allday for two years lmfao it’s la la land for some of you ppl.
This post was edited on 2/4 at 2:04 pm
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Burrow was amazing this year and had the greatest season in the history of college football.
However can we not compare him to a Super Bowl MVP and NFL MVP?
Why not? Three years ago that Super Bowl MVP was a college kid getting trucked by LSU. A Super Bowl MVP isn't Superman. He's just a regular man...like Burrow.
I didn’t mean to insult you what I said might’ve come off harsh. Let’s put it this way, if Burrow just did what Mahomes did the past 2 seasons and someone tried to compare a college QB to him would you entertain that? Of course not, 100% of this board would be laughing at the comparison and Buckeye would be doxing ppl.
This post was edited on 2/4 at 2:57 pm
re: Joe Burrow v. Pat MahomesPosted by SammyTiger on 2/4/20 at 4:43 pm to Penrod
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Why not?
Because the NFL is a lot higher a level of competition than College.
It’s not really comparable. The worst team in the NFL would smash the best college team.
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