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re: Joe Burrow v. Pat Mahomes

Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:33 pm to
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:33 pm to
Lol, Burrow is the best QB Ive ever seen throwing on the run. Gtf outta here.
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:37 pm to
Did you not see Burrow scrambling all over the place the past two years?

Burrow is more Deshawn Watson than he is Drew Brees. He breaks out the pocket when he needs to constantly.

This board is fricking clueless.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10405 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:41 pm to
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Mahomes did a damn good job this season. But the GOAT? Sorry. Disagree.
Pretty sure you are the only person in this thread to use Mahomes and Goat in the same sentence. And nobody is this thread has called Mahomes a Goat. Not one. So I'm not sure what you are arguing.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47537 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:50 pm to
In college, in college. Talk about clueless, Jake Plummer scrambled all over the place in college, Sam Darnold scrambled all over the place in college. There’s a whole world outside of the Rant bubble, you should check it out.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47537 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:55 pm to
“Fawn all over Mahomes all you want but don’t insist Burrow supporters do the same. Ain’t happenin”

That’s your quote now you’re moving the goalpost but I’m not going to follow you down another of your rabbit holes. That statement clearly says Burrow supporters cannot appreciate Mahomes in your opinion.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:01 pm to
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That’s your quote now you’re moving the goalpost but I’m not going to follow you down another of your rabbit holes. That statement clearly says Burrow supporters cannot appreciate Mahomes in your opinion
here's an idea...

You state YOUR opinion, and I'll state my opinion. But don't be so presumptuous as to tell ME what MY opinion is, LOL
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278065 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:01 pm to
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Lol, Burrow is the best QB Ive ever seen throwing on the run. Gtf outta here.





you ever see Aaron Rodgers throw on the run, Bean?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47537 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:03 pm to
I didn’t presume those are your words not mine. And it was you who presumed to represent Burrow fans lol. Not all of us have a Mark David Chapman obsession with Burrow we just love him as a player and can be objective about other players at the same time.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 7:06 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:15 pm to
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I didn’t presume those are your words not mine. And it was you who presumed to represent Burrow fans lol. Not all of us have a Mark David Chapman obsession with Burrow we just love him as a player and can be objective about other players at the same time.
You were way, way, way off on your assessments of Joe Burrow's skills since he got to LSU.

No surprise that you are way, way, way off in your comparison of Joe and Mahomes. Predictable even.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
2314 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:29 pm to
Yes sir I said the same thing last night!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47537 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:31 pm to
Again moving the goalpost and again wrong. Saying Burrow wouldn’t have been the number 1 pick in the 2019 draft doesn’t make me a hater it makes you insane, even though when pressed you backed off of that claim like you always do. And I’m sure you’ll just ignore that for the past 2 seasons I’ve said that if the offense was turned over to Burrow and built around he and the WRs we’d have a real chance. You ignore those statements then try to twist objective facts into some anti-Burrow hate narrative. That’s the problem with over obsessive fanatics you distort reality and you live in the prison of two ideas, Burrow must be God or you hate him.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Tiger Dominance
Bossier City, LA
Member since Oct 2007
487 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:32 pm to
Both Burrow and Mahomes throw the ball North - South and can run when necessary.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47537 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:51 pm to
I’m way off on my assessment of Burrows skills? Lmao that’s rich coming from someone who’s claimed he had a better arm than Aaron Rogers and better feet than Michael Vick. You’ve basically described his athleticism as the best ever at every single measurable skill which is as far from the truth as anybody who’s ever gave an opinion on Burrow. Burrows best attribute has always been between his ears which happens to be the most important part of playing QB. He’s improved his mechanics which has led to great college accuracy but the reason he succeeds isn’t because he has John Elways arm or Steve young’s feet.
Posted by NattyTiger19
Sugar Bowl
Member since Jan 2020
924 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:20 pm to
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Got a link to where I said anything close to this?


Gee, you could have fooled me and several other people as well cause that is exactly what the accumulation of your posts heretofore have been implying.

Nonetheless, in my opinion, Joe Burrow is already as good or even better as Patrick Mahomes. As he runs a pro offensive system already and he runs it incredibly efficiently.

I'm not the only one who has noticed this, as numerous draft analysts I have read say the same exact thing. As they all expect Joe Burrow to hit the ground running when he hits the NFL.

In fact, one of the reasons why Joe Burrow has been so damn good is cause he is effectively already an NFL level QB playing in the college game. Indeed, his tight window and back shoulder throws were so precisely accurate that I don't care what level of football you play on, they couldn't have been any better.

Not to mention, those receivers he was throwing the ball to if in the NFL would already also be starters as well.

Indeed, those touchdown passes he threw in the Clemson game were against future first and second-round draft picks. Just cause they will transition to the NFL for next season, doesn't mean they are going to miraculously take a jump in talent level. I watched Greedy Williams a few times this season during his rookie season and I didn't see any such jump in talent whatsoever. He looked exactly the same as last season.

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Ohh watch out. The guy with a week old account is actually an expert in disguise.



It doesn't matter how old my account is cause it has no bearing on my ability to see who is the faster of the two, who has a better pocket presence, and who also throws better on the run between Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow. Indeed, it obviously is Joe Burrow. Not only that, but I provided a link to prove it.

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And just because someone had a better college career doesn't automatically mean their NFL career is also going to be better... That's equally as ridiculous.



No, it's not equally ridiculous. As Joe Burrow in 2019 was essentially an NFL level QB playing college football and he is already the better QB between the two.

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But yes, not wanting to say that Burrow will be significantly better than the guy who won an NFL MVP one year and a Super Bowl the next is a dumbass take.



A dumbass take is ignoring the fact that Joe Burrow not only won the Heisman but also swept all of the other major awards in college football at the same time he also won a National Championship. As he broke every single QB record there is to break in college football and he did it by defeating 7 teams ranked in the AP Top Ten Poll, with four of those teams being ranked in the Top Four at the time he beat them.

As again, Joe Burrow was essentially an NFL level QB playing college football and I'm not the only one saying that, but most of the analysts and scouts that have looked and analyzed him are also saying the same exact thing too.

I've been a fan of Patrick Mahomes too, but Joe Burrow is more accurate and he also has a better pocket presence relative to Mahomes. I just hope his talents won't go to waste playing for the Cincinnati Bengals.

So if anyone is a dumbass, go look in the damn mirror cause you are greatly underestimating the talent of Joe Burrow.





Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:25 pm to
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better arm than Aaron Rogers and better feet than Michael Vick
Back to your old lying crap again LOL I've never mention either of those players. Not once.



Everyone knows you've been minimizing Burrow's abilities from day one. And now you're at it again.

This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1611 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:56 pm to
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Aaron Rodgers was the last big name QB to sit around a few years. Nowadays it seems like rookies start immediately. Look at RG3 and Cam Newtons first NFL games. Both put up solid numbers.

Had the Saints drafted Mahomes like they were trying to do, Mahomes would not have seen the field for at least 2 seasons. It’s likely that he’s be sitting the bench this season with the Saints, considering all factors.
Posted by RainChance0
Houston
Member since May 2013
541 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 9:01 pm to

Never saw Patrick play until TT played us in the Texas Bowl, and that's the day I knew he was a stud. Absolute stud.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10405 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 9:04 pm to
What are you even babbling about? I never said Burrow would be "astronomically better" than Mahones. I never called Mahomes the goat. All I said was that I would take Patrick Mahomes over Burrow if I was starting a team right now. That and Burrow won't run significantly faster than Mahomes at the combine.

And your link doesn't prove anything. Your link is Burrow's interview with Rich Eisen

You do realize this isn't a hot take right? Take your argument over to the more sports board and see how many people agree with you. Start a thread that say"Joe Burrow is already a better QB than Patrick Mahomes" and see where that goes.
Posted by pitbull20
Somewhere close... real close
Member since Oct 2003
7762 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 9:09 pm to
Do you people not understand that you can compare and contrast play style without saying the two are absolutely equal. FFS, why can't you have a conversation about how two players are similar in how they choose to operate without the "let's not compare him to an NFL MVP" bullshite statement.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47537 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 9:22 pm to
So far literally everything you’ve alleged involving me and others you’re guilty of yourself. Projection, deflection and lies just like always with you.
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