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re: Joe Burrow v. Pat Mahomes
Posted on 2/3/20 at 9:25 pm to GoatBurrow
Posted on 2/3/20 at 9:25 pm to GoatBurrow
Maybe I’m crazy... but I have never once thought about Joe Burrow while watching Mahomes play. They aren’t really anything alike in the way they play, IMO.
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 9:29 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
So saying Burrow has an extremely rare grasp of how to play the QB position and that we should’ve been leaning on him from the first snap he took at LSU is minimizing him? Lmfao you just proved everything I’ve said about you, unless someone says Burrow is earths first perfect physical being you’ll claim they’re attacking him. Your problem is you don’t know anything about football so you can’t comprehend a QB being great unless his measurables are great. You’re just plain ignorant.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 2/3/20 at 9:36 pm to GoatBurrow
You cannot compare the two, Mahomes is an exceptional QB and has proven it every year in his very short NFL career so for. When Joe proves it at the next level than we can say so, but right now you're trying to compare a gifted young QB that just had 1 tremendous season in college to a phenomenal NFL QB that just won a SB at a very young age. I love both QB's, but too early to compare the 2, also, someone said Mahomes can't throw out of the pocket. This isn't true, he can throw from anywhere, out of the pocket, on the run or on top of his head if he needed to, dude is just unreal. He had a bad game in that Super Bowl game last nite, and yet he still managed to rally his team to victory with making outstanding plays. Dude is a magician of a QB.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 11:36 pm to NattyTiger19
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ignoring the fact that Joe Burrow not only won the Heisman
A QB winning the Heisman doesn't exactly translate to winning in the NFL. The 1970 Heisman winner Jim Plunkett is the last QB to win a Heisman and a Superbowl
Posted on 2/3/20 at 11:58 pm to Madking
Sam darnold can not run like Joe Burrow. Are you serious?
Jake could run. But not like Burrow. And he could not throw it around like Burrow.
Gtf, youre definitely clueless.
Joe can run. He is very good at it. If you think Darnold or Plummer were close to his level you are definitely dreaming.
Plummer ran a 4.9 and Darnold ran a 4.86. And neither could really run, not even in college.
Did you NOT see Joe outrunning safeties and linebackers for first downs the past two years???????????????? There’s a reason he expects to run a 4.6. fricking rantard!
Jake could run. But not like Burrow. And he could not throw it around like Burrow.
Gtf, youre definitely clueless.
Joe can run. He is very good at it. If you think Darnold or Plummer were close to his level you are definitely dreaming.
Plummer ran a 4.9 and Darnold ran a 4.86. And neither could really run, not even in college.
Did you NOT see Joe outrunning safeties and linebackers for first downs the past two years???????????????? There’s a reason he expects to run a 4.6. fricking rantard!
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 12:02 am
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:06 am to dLSUm22
Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Ryan Tannehill, Lamar Jackson, Cam Newton, Deshaun Watson, etc.
New age QB’s in the NFL can run and throw the ball. Burrow is similar. Its not hard to understand.
All these guys can throw it, and tuck it and go. All these guys extend plays, and make plays when the defense is broken down. Its not hard to understand.
Burrow most closely resembles D Watson, Aaron Rodgers, in the way they scramble and make plays.
The OP said Mahomes. Its not a hard stretch.
New age QB’s in the NFL can run and throw the ball. Burrow is similar. Its not hard to understand.
All these guys can throw it, and tuck it and go. All these guys extend plays, and make plays when the defense is broken down. Its not hard to understand.
Burrow most closely resembles D Watson, Aaron Rodgers, in the way they scramble and make plays.
The OP said Mahomes. Its not a hard stretch.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:52 am to P bean
No I didn’t because it never happened. Joe runs smartly when teams are in man turn their backs and a big hole opens up or when they’re dropping 8 and a draw is called so we can get em all blocked or when they drop 8 and LBs get too deep. He doesn’t outrun safeties are you high? Yes the 2 QBs I named are very similar to Burrow in foot speed. Burrow’s not gonna run 4.6 you idiot. That would be faster than Cam Newton lol. Like I said try venturing outside the idiot bubble you’ll likely learn something.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 12:59 am
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:13 am to P bean
You’ve never seen Burrow take an NFL snap, how do you know he can do what these QBs can do with his legs? We’ve all seen Rogers roll to his left and unload a 50+ yard stoke a half a foot from being out of bounds on a dime. When has Burrow ever made that kindve throw? There aren’t 5 QBs ever who could make that throw. You’re beyond stupid.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 1:19 am
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:17 am to Madking
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And as usual you don’t have a fact in your corner while making false claims. Burrow lacks many physical tools you moron. Both Mett and Etling has better arms, both were more accurate and Etling was more athletic. You don’t know what you’re talking about which is par for the course.
Hey guys! ^^Here's an example of Madking's "brilliance" in evaluating Joe Burrow's talent... From last Summer! Enjoy!!
re: There is a wide gap in the SEC QBsPosted on 7/11/19 at 9:30 pm to AlxPin LINK
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 1:21 am
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:21 am to Buckeye Jeaux
And that was after his jr. year when he completed fewer than 58% of his passes while the other two QBs mentioned were over 64 and 60% so my statement was 100% true at that time. Burrow made significant mechanical adjustments that led to his much improved accuracy and velocity this season but that’s not when the comment was made. As usual you’re lying and the facts prove you are.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 1:25 am
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:32 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Tom Brady doesn’t have the biggest arm and is one of the least mobile QBs to ever play in the NFL. Does that mean he’s not great? Of course not he’s arguably the greatest QB to ever play. Morons like you have to marry elite physical tools to great QB play but if that were the case guys like Jamarcus Russell and Akili Smith would be hall of famers. It’s just another example of how ignorant you are when it comes to football. Kinda like when you said the go route should be eliminated from any smart OCs playbook because it’s impossible to be open lol.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:38 am to Madking
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And that was after his jr. year when he completed fewer than 58% of his passes while the other two QBs mentioned were over 64 and 60% so my statement was 100% true at that time. Burrow made significant mechanical adjustments that led to his much improved accuracy and velocity this season but that’s not when the comment was made. As usual you’re lying and the facts prove you are.
LSU coach Bill Busch told Orgeron in May of 2018, that Burrow would put LSU in the playoffs.
You MUST be smarter than Bill Busch! Why couldn't YOU see what Bill Busch saw?
And the biggest difference between '18 and '19 was the Summer WR drills and 10,000 jugs reps.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:44 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Again lies and moving the goal post. Like I predicted you would you’ve left out any post I made back in 2018 saying that we needed to put the offense in Burrows hands and think about putting up 40-50 pass attempts a game. You’ll never repost those because it exposes your phony narrative and proves you’re a liar. And you love to tell ppl that all of our incomplete passes in 2018 were because of WR drops which is a huge lie. Burrow has accuracy problems for a few main reasons. He had a habit of standing flat footed on short drops, he bailed out a lot instead of stepping up in the pocket and his ball placement wasn’t quite right. Again you’re just dishonest and ignorant.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:45 am to Buckeye Jeaux
You mean the same thing you said when pushed on the subject? You’ve said repeatedly that Burrow might be a top 5 QB taken but you refused to say he’d be a first rounder up until mid season this year. Your lies and hypocrisy are just pathetic.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 1:46 am
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:48 am to Buckeye Jeaux
That just proves how dishonest you are. Only you can take a quote that says “Burrow is my favorite QB in a long time” and try to twist it into a criticism of him. Lol keep it up zero.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:54 am to Buckeye Jeaux
You're still doing this after almost 12 hours? Geez man.
Give a rest. You're on here saying that no one is entitled to "tell" you what your opinion should be but at the same time you're telling others what theirs should be.
Burrow is an elite talent. We were damn lucky to have him. He has the awards to prove it.
With that being said, why you're flipping out when someone else says another QB is talented is ridiculous.
No one in this thread has said that Mahomes is the GOAT. You and you alone brought up that little gem.
Get over yourself. Why you have to turn every thread that even mentions Burrow's name into some big pissing match is beyond me.
You act like just simply bringing up the name of another talented QB is in some way a shot at Burrow and it isn't. No idea why you take it to that level. Look at your posts on this page alone.
Give a rest. You're on here saying that no one is entitled to "tell" you what your opinion should be but at the same time you're telling others what theirs should be.
Burrow is an elite talent. We were damn lucky to have him. He has the awards to prove it.
With that being said, why you're flipping out when someone else says another QB is talented is ridiculous.
No one in this thread has said that Mahomes is the GOAT. You and you alone brought up that little gem.
Get over yourself. Why you have to turn every thread that even mentions Burrow's name into some big pissing match is beyond me.
You act like just simply bringing up the name of another talented QB is in some way a shot at Burrow and it isn't. No idea why you take it to that level. Look at your posts on this page alone.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 2:05 am to Madking
quote:NEVER said Burrow MIGHT be a top 5 pick, I said he will be. And he will.
You mean the same thing you said when pushed on the subject? You’ve said repeatedly that Burrow might be a top 5 QB taken but you refused to say he’d be a first rounder up until mid season this year. Your lies and hypocrisy are just pathetic.
The issue was drops. The WRs fixed that problem with 10,000 jugs reps, and other drills.
Both Bill Connelly AND CBS sports documented LSU's miserable drop rate.
Here's Fornelli's tweet - 3rd worst drop rate in Power 5 schools in 2018:
LINK
Posted on 2/4/20 at 2:09 am to Buckeye Jeaux
The NCAA doesn’t track drops and the drop rate is only pertaining to catchable balls, it doesn’t account for errant throws so your narrative still falls apart. You’re trying to place all the responsibility for Burrows low completion pct on the WRs when on its face that’s an insane and dishonest argument. You list an unconfirmed source but I’ve seen you attack other unconfirmed sources that didn’t agree with your narrative which is your typical double standard. And whether you said might or will you refused to place him in the first round during that convo so again attacking me for saying the same thing you did is just more of your hypocrisy. Burrow missed a lot of easy throws last season, this coming from Burrow himself, so he worked on his craft and improved. You can keep lying though, it’s what you do.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 2:16 am
Posted on 2/4/20 at 2:17 am to Madking
quote:Really! And still posted the highest 13-game completion percentage in the HISTORY of college football!!
Burrow missed a lot of easy throws last season, this coming from Burrow himself, so he worked on his craft and improved. You can keep lying though, it’s what you do.
So now it is Birdbrain and Madcow on this thread. Wow. Can't think of anything more tiresome.
G'Night
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