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re: Jay’s quote “We’re not going to negotiate with terrorists”
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:10 pm to TigerCub
Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:10 pm to TigerCub
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I think he’s talking more about kids who want promises in return for staying. Not kids entering the portal in general. He was responding to a question about kids entering the portal but pulling their name out and coming back.
This. There’s a big difference if guys looking for a shot who enter and move on and anyone who enters and then dangles interest in staying if you will throw more money or promises at them.
A coach isn’t wrong for dealing with players who enter the portal to keep them, as long as they aren’t program cancer, but Jay has the luxury to take this stance because he knows he is at a place where he can at least replace and potentially upgrade over anyone who leaves.
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:17 pm to PsychTiger
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These are the children raised on participation trophies and not keeping score in games. Many of them have never been told “no” in their life, and this is the result.
I would guess that most of these guys have probably been playing hypercompetitive baseball from a very young age with selective travel ball teams.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:33 pm to TigersJump
He also said he was taking Mic Paul to Omaha with them because he represents everything an LSU player should represent or something to that effect so there are exceptions.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:40 pm to Tiger1988
Mic paul probably isnt making demands to negotiate a return.
How do yall not see the difference
How do yall not see the difference
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:46 pm to josh336
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Mic paul probably isnt making demands to negotiate a return. How do yall not see the difference
You’re assuming Preister is? How about one of those freshman who have not gotten an opportunity to play. Doubtful any are in a position of strength. It isn’t like freshman aren’t contributing now and haven’t all season. You know that LSU has an excellent position for big contributors at catcher so in Preister’s case, it was about PT at Southeastern
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:04 pm to josh336
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Mic paul probably isnt making demands to negotiate a return.
How do yall not see the difference
He was also likely advised to enter the portal by Jay.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:12 pm to Tiger1988
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You’re assuming Preister is?
No, never said I was
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:20 pm to josh336
quote:who is then and why are they in a position of strength to negotiate? We don’t know what the roster situation will be next year. That 35 man limit is not the “full limit” from what we know now.
No, never said I was
Why is Mic Paul not the exception?
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:23 pm to TigersJump
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:30 pm to Tiger1988
What do you mean? Mic paul is clearly a good kid who his teammates respect and he is getting to go hangout with the team, and isnt taking a roster spot. Id say, that maybe some of the guys in the portal who arent with the team dont share some of the same qualities as mic. I think jay was alluding to maybe some past players making demands to return from the portal, and that he wouldnt negotiate. Thats really all there is to the quote.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:43 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
He specifically said, in response to this question "I have never forced or encouraged a player to leave". The terrorist he was speaking of was the player who entered the portal & then wanted to come back. He has always said he has no problems with any player entering the portal. I suggest when you rip CJJ for some comment in a video you at least LISTEN to the entire video.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 10:46 pm to Keltic Tiger
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He specifically said, in response to this question "I have never forced or encouraged a player to leave"
I mean I guess that's technically true in the sense that he's not pulling schollies, but I do know for a fact that he has advised players to look elsewhere by saying they wouldn't be getting playing time.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:48 am to LSU82BILL
Found the dummy..
Posted on 6/11/25 at 4:36 am to TigersJump
Yep. If it’s not the right fit, it’s not the right fit.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:24 am to IM_4_LSU
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Instead of prioritizing teamwork and selflessness, the focus is often on individual wants and needs.
That is one of the reasons I like this team so much. It is about the team and the players are very likable. Most teams have a few players that are unlikeable. This team doesn't really have one
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:03 am to jrobic4
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I wish that every coach in America could enter a pact on this. All of the craziness is slowly killing my love for college sports. I'm glad I can at least hang onto baseball for a while longer
me too - I cannot believe I am losing my interest in college athletics.
I lost my interest in professional baseball decades ago when they first threatened to 'go on strike'
I may have to spend my remaining years following chess.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:31 am to PsychTiger
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These are the children raised on participation trophies and not keeping score in games. Many of them have never been told “no” in their life, and this is the result.
These kids played travel ball their whole lives. Definitely not the case.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:34 am to Dizz
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Why does everyone think when a kid hits the portal it's because they are selfish or are seeking instant gratification. Plenty of kids see the writing on the wall that they path to playing time is non-existent or very narrow. Plenty of kids just want to maximize their chance to play in the small window they have.
First of all, you're right—it's not every single player who enters the transfer portal. But let's be honest: the vast majority are chasing instant gratification. My original comment was in response to Jay's point about 'buying in,' and if you can't recognize the growing issue of entitlement among players today, then there's really nothing I can say to change your mind. Your reply completely misses the point. Of course it's not every kid—but it's a widespread problem in college sports, and pretending otherwise is just willful ignorance
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:38 am to IM_4_LSU
Have you not noticed the last few generations coming up? Lot of entitlement without the work ethic.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:04 am to Dizz
quote:Well that's not who he is talking about. Those kids leaving for playing time aren't trying to re-negotiate anything or hold the team hostage during tournament time.
Plenty of kids see the writing on the wall that they path to playing time is non-existent or very narrow. Plenty of kids just want to maximize their chance to play in the small window they have.
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