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re: Jayden is a clear cut #2 QB of all time but where does he rank amongst all players
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:11 am to Solo Cam
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:11 am to Solo Cam
where do you rank burrow?
wherever you do, daniels is right behind him. They do not have career accolades but as far as a single season, 1-2.
wherever you do, daniels is right behind him. They do not have career accolades but as far as a single season, 1-2.
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:11 am to DalenSA
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I don't even think he's top 5 all-time on the offensive side of the ball
How are some of you this dumb. Name 5 offensive players with a better career. I’ll wait.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:15 am to Solo Cam
Jayden legitimately might be the #1 QB LSU has ever had. Think about that...
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:15 am to BordyLSU
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He’s a Heisman finalist. How many have we had? 4? 5 if Charles Alexander counts
Who are you counting? Jerry Stovall was actually a runner up. Many people don’t realize that.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:20 am to Tiger1242
I absolutely love Joe Burrow and was one of the idiots calling for Nuss but JD might be pushing for the best to ever play at LSU. He does things that no other player, at the most important position, has ever done. He if no doubt top 5 and maybe even the greatest. Just doesn’t have a competitive defense.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:22 am to Solo Cam
If we're going all time I'd have him in at least in my Top 20, maybe higher.
In no particular order (more chronological than anything): This is off the top of my head, so I know I forgot some.
Billy Cannon
Joe Burrow
Tommy Casanova
Abe Mickal
Doc Fenton
Gaynell Tinsley
Steve Van Buren
Jimmy Taylor
Johnny Robinson
Roy Winston
Ja'Marr Chase
Andy Hamilton
Ronnie Estay
Justin Jefferson
Jayden Daniels
Alan Faneca
Jerry Stovall
Andrew Whitworth
Glenn Dorsey
Tyrann Mathieu
Patrick Peterson
Charles Alexander
Dalton Hilliard
Josh Reed
Eric Martin
Wendell Davis
Odell Beckham Jr
In no particular order (more chronological than anything): This is off the top of my head, so I know I forgot some.
Billy Cannon
Joe Burrow
Tommy Casanova
Abe Mickal
Doc Fenton
Gaynell Tinsley
Steve Van Buren
Jimmy Taylor
Johnny Robinson
Roy Winston
Ja'Marr Chase
Andy Hamilton
Ronnie Estay
Justin Jefferson
Jayden Daniels
Alan Faneca
Jerry Stovall
Andrew Whitworth
Glenn Dorsey
Tyrann Mathieu
Patrick Peterson
Charles Alexander
Dalton Hilliard
Josh Reed
Eric Martin
Wendell Davis
Odell Beckham Jr
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 8:24 am
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:25 am to MetryTyger
That's a pretty good list!
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:37 am to CoachChappy
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Whit has had the longest NFL career and won a Super Bowl. Is he #1?
I don’t see why a pro career matters at all when ranking LSU players all-time. The only thing that should be considered is college performance.
The pros are a whole other level and whole other comparison.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:47 am to geauxcoco
Dylan Crews says hello.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:49 am to TigahTeeth
You guys have such recency bias. JD5 is a clear cut top 3 QB all time for LSU. However, to even mention him with Burrow is blasphemy. In what game that meant anything did JD5 come through.
FSU - played awful in 2nd half
Ole Miss - threw terrible interception that got them back into game.
Alabama - drive stalled, interception, injured.
Meanwhile Joe beat the shite out of every team he played, and did it in about 7 games that really meant something. At no point did Joe flounder like JD5 has.
Additionally, Joe had fricking Ed O as his coach vs CBK. Also Joe had Steve Ensminger as the OC.
Again JD5 is a good QB who may get some playing time in the NFL, but Joe may be the best college QB ever and if he can get healthy could end up being an all time NFL QB.
FSU - played awful in 2nd half
Ole Miss - threw terrible interception that got them back into game.
Alabama - drive stalled, interception, injured.
Meanwhile Joe beat the shite out of every team he played, and did it in about 7 games that really meant something. At no point did Joe flounder like JD5 has.
Additionally, Joe had fricking Ed O as his coach vs CBK. Also Joe had Steve Ensminger as the OC.
Again JD5 is a good QB who may get some playing time in the NFL, but Joe may be the best college QB ever and if he can get healthy could end up being an all time NFL QB.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 8:51 am
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:50 am to MetryTyger
Doesn’t K Faulk still hold the SEC record for all purpose yards?
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:06 am to Usm Tiger
That’s the thing, when our D was hurt and playing awful in 2019 Burrow kicked it into another gear and put up ridiculous point totals. He was 4-0 vs opponents that scored 30 or more points against us averaging 53.8ppg in those instances. JD is 3-3 averaging 39.3ppg in those instances this season. Not a knock on JD, 39ppg is still incredible but Joe was able to take his game to another level when the situation called for it.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:16 am to Y.A. Tittle
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He’s a Heisman finalist. How many have we had? 4? 5 if Charles Alexander counts
Who are you counting? Jerry Stovall was actually a runner up. Many people don’t realize that.
Cannon, Stovall, TM7 & Burrow. Wasn't Alexander 2nd or rd in voting also?
I'm arguing that a Heisman finalist was so good nationally, they need to be considered as top all time Tigers
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:17 am to CoachChappy
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Whit has had the longest NFL career and won a Super Bowl. Is he #1?
NFL career should be irrelevant
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:17 am to SpqrTiger
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I don’t see why a pro career matters at all when ranking LSU players all-time. The only thing that should be considered is college performance.
Well, that’s what I was asking in my post. OP did not specify.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:18 am to Solo Cam
Why clear cut number 2? You know every player, even Burrow, could be unseated at some point. You don’t HAVE to preface every quarterback talk with the “Burrow will always be #1” .
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:22 am to Bjorn Cyborg
It’s not totally irrelevant because in a lot of cases it helps the younger generations have context with some of the players. For example if you didn’t know anything about Bert Jones and just looked at his stats for LSU you could argue that Herb Tyler was better in college. Jones’ NFL career can help fans who didn’t watch him better understand what kind of player he really was.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:23 am to MetryTyger
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Billy Cannon Joe Burrow Tommy Casanova Abe Mickal Doc Fenton Gaynell Tinsley Steve Van Buren Jimmy Taylor Johnny Robinson Roy Winston Ja'Marr Chase Andy Hamilton Ronnie Estay Justin Jefferson Jayden Daniels Alan Faneca Jerry Stovall Andrew Whitworth Glenn Dorsey Tyrann Mathieu Patrick Peterson Charles Alexander Dalton Hilliard Josh Reed Eric Martin Wendell Davis Odell Beckham Jr
Shouldn’t Malik Nabers be ahead of some of those other WRs now?
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:36 am to Solo Cam
Daniels will finish this season as the most efficient passer in NCAA History, to go along with his 1000 yard rushing season.
He is without a doubt Top 5 in LSU history, #2 if he brings home the Heisman.
He is without a doubt Top 5 in LSU history, #2 if he brings home the Heisman.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 12:58 pm to Solo Cam
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Billy Cannon
Glenn Dorsey
Josh Reed
Pat Peterson
Tyrann
Kev Faulk
Charles Alexander
Whitworth
Top 5 for sure but what do you think?
I'm sorry but no. Daniels is an all time great Tiger but I can't put him in the top 5. There are too many elite players to just put him in the top 5.
1. Burrow
2. Billy Cannon
3. Tommy Cassanova
4. Andrew Whitworth
5. Patrick Peterson
6. Glenn Dorsey
7. Corey Webster
8. Alan Faneca
9. Kevin Faulk
10. Tyrann Mathieu
11. Kevin Mawae
I cannot justify putting him in the top 5 but that doesn't mean he isn't an all-time great. Don't diminish the greatness of other LSU all-time greats.
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