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re: Jay Johnson explains how he likes his lineup constructed
Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:55 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:55 pm to Lester Earl
Morgan
Crews
Berry
Dugas
Doughty
6 - 9 will change obviously
Crews
Berry
Dugas
Doughty
6 - 9 will change obviously
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 3:22 pm
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:56 pm to TigerFan91
quote:
Morgan
Crews
Berry
Doughty
Dugas
Good with this
Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:58 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Leadoff: wants them to walk and hit doubles. Wont swing at balls.
2 hole: Likes to bat his best player here. Doesn't want him left on deck in the 9th inning in a close game.
3 hole: versatile guy, usually a left handed hitter. If one of the 1st two guys do their job, he is coming up with a hole on the right side
If his leadoff guy hits one of those doubles he wants in the 9th inning of a close game, his best hitter in the 2 spot is going to get pitched around to set up a double play. Then his lefty in the 3 spot won't have a hole on the right side because with a runner on 2nd, they won't be holding the runner at first.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:01 pm to LSU82BILL
quote:
If his leadoff guy hits one of those doubles he wants in the 9th inning of a close game, his best hitter in the 2 spot is going to get pitched around to set up a double play. Then his lefty in the 3 spot won't have a hole on the right side because with a runner on 2nd, they won't be holding the runner at first.
You don’t construct your lineup solely based off of a potential scenario. You base your lineup off of percentages. What’s going to happen most often throughout the season.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:03 pm to Lester Earl
Good stuff. Based on his description, sounds like he wants the top 5 of the lineup to be something like
1 Doughty
2 Crews
3 Berry
4 Morgan
5 Dugas / Bianco
Or it could be switching up morgan and doughty
1 Doughty
2 Crews
3 Berry
4 Morgan
5 Dugas / Bianco
Or it could be switching up morgan and doughty
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:05 pm to TigerFan91
Morgan
Crews
Doughty
Berry
Dugas
Crews
Doughty
Berry
Dugas
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:05 pm to thunderbird1100
Doughty was hitting lead off a lot in fall ball.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:07 pm to TigerFan91
Morgan
Crews
Berry
Doughty
Dugas
Crews
Berry
Doughty
Dugas
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:08 pm to SoloTiger
quote:
Doughty was hitting lead off a lot in fall ball.
That's fine and all, but if what the OP said is true, he isn't one of our better walk/OBP or doubles guys, so he doesnt fulfill 2 of those 3 items of hitting doubles, getting on base and not striking out (he is good not striking out).
We've got guys to fill that role a bit better like Morgan, Crews, heck a handful of guys basically who hit more doubles and get on base more than Doughty.
Here's the breakdown of the Top 5 guys there:
Morgan - 16 2B, .441 OBP, 41 SO
Crews - 16 2B, .453 OBP, 44 SO
Dugas - 13 2B, .407 OBP, 63 SO
Berry - 19 2B, .439 OBP, 58 SO
Doughty - 11 2B, .368 OBP, 32 SO
Doughty has got those guys on striking out but pretty big advantage to the other guys for the most part on OBP and hitting doubles.
This wasn't said by OP but usually matters for a leadoff guy, but Doughty also only stole 1 base all season last year. Morgan and Crews are very sufficient there by comparison. So they turned a lot of singles into doubles as well on top of already hitting way more doubles.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:12 pm to CottonWasKing
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You don’t construct your lineup solely based off of a potential scenario.
I don't disagree. I just found it odd that the criteria for what Johnson wants in a line up was pretty specific to certain scenarios and addressed one such scenario.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:13 pm to Lester Earl
I like his idea on line up construction
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:13 pm to Lester Earl
God DAMN i love Jay Johnson.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:16 pm to LSU82BILL
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was pretty specific to certain scenarios and addressed one such scenario
But the point is that the scenarios he's addressing via the lineup construction are the scenarios that are most likely to occur.
He's *NOT* doing the old-fashioned "put your power hitter at cleanup so he can hit a grand slam" thing. He's looking at the situation distributions and planning accordingly. When he says "if the 5-hole guy comes up with bases loaded ..." i bet that he has data showing him that the 5 hole hitter is relatively more likely to wind up in that situation than other spots in the lineup.
The "don't base your lineup on potential scenarios" statement means don't base your lineup on the scenario you *hope* happens. Base it on what is most likely to happen on average.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:18 pm to SoloTiger
quote:
Doughty was hitting lead off a lot in fall ball.
Yap. Doughty was second on the team this fa
ll in OBP to McManus. (.483)
t3rd in BB
t1st in 2B
And while Berry was out, Morgan hit 4th against UNO & ULL, which I thought was interesting looking back
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:20 pm to LifeAquatic
You mean we have better options than Tyler Hanover, Will Safford or Chris Reid at cleanup?
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:21 pm to Lester Earl
Morgan
Crews
Berry
Doughty
???
Crews
Berry
Doughty
???
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:22 pm to CottonWasKing
quote:
You don’t construct your lineup solely based off of a potential scenario. You base your lineup off of percentages. What’s going to happen most often throughout the season.
Also, if his lineup is (let's just say)
1. Crews
2. Berry
3. Morgan
4. Doughty
5. Dugas
then you'd get Crews on 2nd, Berry on 1st, and Morgan up to bat with 2 on
or
1. Morgan
2. Crews
3. Berry
then Berry would be up with 2 on lol
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:22 pm to ell_13
quote:
Morgan
Crews
Berry
Doughty
???
Dugas.
Unless he REALLY wants to strike the fear of god in a pitcher and put Travinski at 5 and Dugas at 6
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:26 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Yap. Doughty was second on the team this fa
ll in OBP to McManus. (.483)
t3rd in BB
t1st in 2B
I dont see how a few fall scrimmage stats are more relevant here than full season stats for these guys. 1 is slightly more indicative than the other
I mean if Doughty is still hitting leading off this spring a lot (which he seems to be) which he is not saying he cant leadoff, I just dont track with what was said if he said he values getting on base and doubles, Doughty isnt one of the better guys we've got there going on past performances. Morgan and Crews both clearly got on base and more doubles than Doughty last year not to mention can turn singles/walks into doubles at a much much higher rate than Doughty. Maybe he just values not striking out the most? No idea, Doughty was the best there for sure.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:30 pm to PP7 for heisman
Dugas has been struggling since the fall. So it may not be him.
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