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re: Javien Toviano Arrested

Posted on 7/22/24 at 6:44 am to
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
58580 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 6:44 am to
Do it for State!
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32538 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 6:51 am to
quote:

This is way worse than having an object that is legal to own


How do we know the broad isn’t lying?

If you video someone without them knowing, why would you let them go through the device the video is on?

Sounds like a bitter chick that got fricked and ducked
This post was edited on 7/22/24 at 6:54 am
Posted by Ampipe96
Member since Sep 2020
1607 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:02 am to
Needs to see pic of girl to determine level of guilt/outrage
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12757 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:05 am to
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definitely. Its not the start of season until we are waiting to see if some players will be eligible because of conduct or academics


The truth behind this statement is very unfortunate. Its every year....
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1362 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:29 am to
Yep you can always count on late July/ August arrests
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
4573 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:36 am to
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There’s a pretty significant difference in filming “sex in your own home” and having a hidden camera that you use to film someone without their knowledge and consent



Yeah, but it's also easy to claim he informed her before. Especially if they were drinking.
I have a daughter and I would be mortified, BUT I would also hold her accountable for being somewhere with someone she didn't fully know or trust.
Would I want it deleted? Yes
I would not want a young man's life ruined over a video of 2 consenting participants
Now if he was sharing it, I'd want more stringent actions.

No one has all details yet. But these higher profile kids get falsely accused all the time. I'd film some things too, especially audio showing consent.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10887 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:06 am to
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Sex tape?


Seems to be. Without consent.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15970 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:18 am to
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If you video someone without them knowing, why would you let them go through the device the video is on?


Of course no one would do something stupid like that. They would do something even dumber and show it a bunch of people and text/snap it out to others.
This post was edited on 7/22/24 at 8:19 am
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9592 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:18 am to
THIS!
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I would not want a young man's life ruined over a video of 2 consenting participants
Now if he was sharing it, I'd want more stringent actions. No one has all details yet. But these higher profile kids get falsely accused all the time. I'd film some things too, especially audio showing consent.


Everyone is DVing my post, but I take it that none of these guys has ever been falsely accused of rape (BTW neither have I). Whether or not you are guilty, the video can show proof of innocence. Just the legal fees can approach 6-figures, guilty or otherwise. And to settle costs $$ as well.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8139 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:19 am to
Whenever a player gets arrested, there is always a shortage of information, and there are always people that assume the worst and fill in the blanks. Some of you (that have likely never even met Javien) have already compared him to Cecil Collins. I would urge everyone to have a little patience and let the facts come out before condemning him.

I have never met Javien, but I know someone that works in his high school, and I recently discussed this matter with them. They were utterly shocked, and couldn't imagine Javien doing something like that. They said that Javien was always very respectful to women. After our discussion, I think it is much more likely that this is a good kid that made a really bad mistake (either through ignorance, stupidity, or bad advice) than it is that we have a sexual predator on the team. If that's the case, he should be able to find a way to work his way out of this, and work his way back onto the team.

So, I would suggest we let the facts come out before we toss one of our own to the wolves.

(Edited to remove a typo)
This post was edited on 7/22/24 at 8:32 am
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:40 am to
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How do we know the broad isn’t lying?

If she gave him consent to film, why would he go through the trouble of hiding the camera in a clock?
quote:

If you video someone without them knowing, why would you let them go through the device the video is on?

Maybe he's a fricking idiot?
Posted by Tiger n Austin
Austin, Tx
Member since Dec 2005
6801 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:40 am to
I mean, he most likely did what he was arrested for. He will most likely get off with a slap on the wrist/charges dropped b/c he is a football player and we will offer the girl some $$ in exchange for her "cooperation". Then you will have some posters chastise other posters for jumping the gun until all the facts come to light.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8139 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:53 am to
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I mean, he most likely did what he was arrested for.
I agree. I'm not condoning what he did. I'm merely pointing out that there's a difference between someone that can't keep out of trouble and someone that is generally a good person that makes a really bad mistake. The latter will generally accept responsibility and do what it takes to make amends somehow.
quote:

He will most likely get off with a slap on the wrist/charges dropped b/c he is a football player and we will offer the girl some $$ in exchange for her "cooperation".
I think this is likely as well, especially if he is truly contrite.
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Then you will have some posters chastise other posters for jumping the gun until all the facts come to light.
Posters on this site are going to chastise each other whenever they get the chance. The rant is going to rant.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33914 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:27 am to
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How do we know the broad isn’t lying?

If you video someone without them knowing, why would you let them go through the device the video is on?



He probably isn't very smart. Either she already knew the password or he didn't have one.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128036 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:44 am to
Why are you making it seem like I'm the one that said that shite
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13066 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:45 am to
So , when you decide that there is a huge difference between "criminal" and a "good person who makes a really bad mistake", you are making a distinction that the law typically does not make in deciding guilt or innocence. And what you may be suggesting is that people you know or like aren't criminals.
Whatever he did here, it is hard to suggest it was through inadvertence or a "mistake"
He knew what he was doing.
If what he was doing was a crime, he is a criminal. .
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53480 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:54 am to
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They said that Javien was always very respectful to women



Let's hear his side...especially if he's always treatin the womenz real nice
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6521 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:58 am to
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Everyone is DVing my post, but I take it that none of these guys has ever been falsely accused of rape (BTW neither have I). Whether or not you are guilty, the video can show proof of innocence. Just the legal fees can approach 6-figures, guilty or otherwise. And to settle costs $$ as well.


So the solution is to knowingly commit a felony and likley ruin the girl's life just in case....

Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13066 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:06 am to
Right. Because a guy has to protect his reputation, doncha know...
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
Member since Jan 2006
5792 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:07 am to
As yet, there doesn't appear to be any information on the extent of their relationship. He was certainly wrong regardless, but if she's just screwing a random football player she met at a 4th of July party, Daddy needs to sit down and have a talk with his Little Princess.
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