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re: Jalen Cook is currently suspended.

Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:20 am to
Posted by Ampipe96
Member since Sep 2020
1347 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:20 am to
I don’t think we’ve seen Stewart’s potential. I think healthy he can be a contributor. I think the biggest beneficiary of the Cook stuff is Ward. He has absolutely improved his game and taken advantage of the minutes/shots
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14511 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:28 am to
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However, winning 4 of the last 5 games has likely given McMahon a sense of comfort in his place and where the program COULD be headed to allow him to essentially shut down one of his best players and not face much criticism for doing so.


It absolutely has. I mean he could have done so anyway, not like we're playing for high stakes unless and NIT birth is important to you, but the fact they we are arguably playing better ball without Cook than with him (and I would make that argument) makes it much easier.

And it took away any leverage Cook may have had.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73512 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:47 am to
We aren’t making the tourney anyway.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
8998 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:05 am to
Well he shite the bed.
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
12738 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:27 am to
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ETA: 70 people dont understand sarcasm


And one person doesn’t understand that sarcasm doesn’t translate well across a text platform.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31921 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:09 am to
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he was a starter and a key piece under wade lol. if anything it was mcmahon who cut his role back




Cook couldn’t get off the bench under wade and got upset because Gaines was playing over him as a freshman
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47918 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:12 am to
Your statement is 100% false

Jalen Cook
-0 starts in 20 appearances under Wade
-Started 9 of 13 games for McMahon

-7.5 minutes per game under Wade
-27.5 minutes per game under McMahon
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15821 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:25 am to
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sarcasm doesn’t translate well across a text platform


Yes it does, you just have to not be retarded
Posted by MsandLa
in the L.P.
Member since Jan 2009
7164 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:38 am to
I've known Jalen since he was a kid. With that said, not sure what is going on with this but I truly believe he should have went the football route. Amazing athlete
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1974 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 3:33 am to
yeah y'all are right. at the time i made that reply i was discussing with some irl friends about mwani possibly transferring to mcneese at the end of the season.

got confused and thought i was replying to someone talking about him, not jalen cook. view what i said as me speaking about mwani, not cook.

jalen was absolutely not a key piece under wade, and i know that.
stupid mistake on my part.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 3:48 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35411 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 9:39 am to
Yeah, the comment was from out of left field. Pretty much assumed you were talking about Mwani but I couldn't figure out why.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1974 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 9:43 am to
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Pretty much assumed you were talking about Mwani but I couldn't figure out why.


my bad lol. was in a group text talking about the possibility of him transferring to mcneese then swapped over to td without thinking and made the post. at first i was so confused as to why i had so many downvotes

he's my favorite player on the team, but i think i would like him to transfer. i've been told by some people closer to the team that he's going to be doing senior night but is also open to playing a 5th year. to me that implies he's going to be playing elsewhere next year. i would like to see him reunite with wade at mcneese and get some serious PT
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1890 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:23 am to
I spoke with someone wired in the basketball scene here and he had actually spoken to Cooks dad a couple of days ago. His dad doesn’t even know what’s going on with him. My source thinks this might be more of a mental health issue. Depression or maybe even Bipolar. If you know someone with Bipolar issues you know what can happen to them when not on their meds. He also works with a lot of college and NBA players. Has worked with Carlos Stewart and said his knee issue has affected his ability and once he’s healed can be a scoring threat for McMahon when healthy. Hope to see that happen. I think McMahon is giving Cook the 2 weeks to get his head screwed on right and leave the door open to come back for post season. Will see if it works as my guy feels with an engaged Cook this team could have gone 12-6 in SEC.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35411 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:25 am to
Mwani is one of my favorites as well.

However I do think he has some daylight at LSU next year. As it is we will be using a slot for a center in the portal. If Cook leaves (yes, more and more likely) we will have to use that slot on a veteran point guard. That means that we can't replace Wright from the portal or hs ranks. Pretty much leaves Ward and Mwani as the only players who can play the 2 and 3. Mike Williams will play the 2 a lot but Mwani gives us flexibility as well as another 3 point shooter.

ETA: If Mwani moves on I think he could do a lot better than McNeese for playing time. Perhaps even Vandy or Arkansas.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 10:28 am
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10352 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:29 am to
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the fact they we are arguably playing better ball without Cook than with him (and I would make that argument) makes it much easier.

And it took away any leverage Cook may have had.


Cook is at an inflection point in his life and career. He is landlocked as far as transferring to a Division 1 school unless he is a graduate transfer. Otherwise his option are to transfer to a lower level or pursue overseas pro opportunities. Maybe Wright and Hannibal can get him to see that he is wasting his potential by remaining aloof aand convince him to buy into whatthey are doing.

Cook is clearly a talented player, probably better suited to play shooting guard or at least in an offense where he does not have to be the primary playmaker. Hopefully he can reflect on and accept what the team has accomplished without him and realize how much better they could be with him accepting a different role and especially operating within the concept of the offense, The shots will be there within the flow and not just with individualized moves. We had a glimpse of what this team can be offensively in the first 32 minutes against Alabama at home. Imagine the offensive explosion with Cook, Wright, Ward, Williams and Baker bombing from all areas of the court, Reed driving the lane , and Hannibal playing under control.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30384 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:43 am to
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Hannibal playing under control


I just wish Hannibal had Cook's skill on the dribble. Cook's dumb turnovers were generally ill-advised passes, Hannibal's were often dribbling off his thigh, shin, or foot. I will say that those have just about disappeared of late for Hannibal.

Cook's shooting and driving ability also present more offensive opportunities for the team because it disrupts the opposing defense a bit.

Trae adds an active rebounding presence, though. I think the net for an engaged Cook is still higher but the Cook we saw in most of his later games did not seem engaged with the team and was often as much a liability as an asset. So I think he lost his starting role to Hannibal and probably was being childish about that.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47918 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:48 am to
Honest mistake bro, the “lol” just threw me off.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28384 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:49 am to
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He is landlocked as far as transferring to a Division 1 school unless he is a graduate transfer.


Doubtful. The ruling in the West Virginia essentially signaled the NCAA's rule restricting multiple time transfers without a waiver would not hold up in court. That's why they largely abandoned the fight after the TRO was entered and announced the rule would not be enforced for the remainder of the season. Cook (and others in his situation as multiple time transfers) should be very confident they will be eligible next season.

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Cook is clearly a talented player, probably better suited to play shooting guard or at least in an offense where he does not have to be the primary playmaker. Hopefully he can reflect on and accept what the team has accomplished without him and realize how much better they could be with him accepting a different role and especially operating within the concept of the offense,


As frustrating as it might have seemed at times, the offense was actually much more efficient with Cook. The efficiency ratings had been steadily getting worse (until the game vs Vanderbilt) with him out. Now, that's not to say LSU was a better team, overall, with him starting/playing significant minutes because he wasn't matching's Hannibal's defensive and rebounding efforts. Basketball, by nature, is an "offensive" game with the amount of scoring relative to other sports. So people focus on that area most. But the best teams ALL defend. That's where Cook was struggling most. And it is on that end of the floor LSU has been able to hang in games as of late even when their offense has been prone to lulls.

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his option are to transfer to a lower level or pursue overseas pro opportunities.


None of us fully know what led to the suspension. But I suspect there will be a marketplace for him at the major conf. level. Maybe not as much as there was going into last season. But not zero.
Posted by Old Man and a Porch
Member since Dec 2023
127 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:16 pm to
Not calling you a liar but do not believe he has mental health issues.

He wants to be center of attention and he wants the team to need him to play to win.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1890 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 3:05 pm to
It is possible for both scenarios to exist at the same time. I'm just telling you what someone who knows the family and has worked with the players is saying.
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