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re: It’s been a month and I still wake up pondering how Wehriwa(sp?) went to third

Posted on 7/21/25 at 9:53 am to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61638 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 9:53 am to
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Did he, though?


He didn’t catch it. He managed to send it 150 feet away until the corner of the outfield allowing the tying run to score.

Yeah. I’d say he did.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59261 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:00 am to
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pondering how Wehriwa(sp?) went to third


Would have been much easier to just go with Aloy.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12318 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:02 am to
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He didn’t catch it. He managed to send it 150 feet away until the corner of the outfield allowing the tying run to score.


The initial slip and then ricochet off head is more bad luck than unforced error. Definitely not a choke.
This post was edited on 7/21/25 at 10:03 am
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28108 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:08 am to
Most importantly though is LSU put the ball in play each time forcing them to make a play.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
56181 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:08 am to
Too much is being put on that game. People act like if Arky wins they just roll on to the natty. probably based on their previous 9th inning meltdown that actually did cost them one

They were out of pitching and were not beating Kade and ant the next night anyway
This post was edited on 7/21/25 at 10:08 am
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59261 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:13 am to
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Too much is being put on that game.


I think it’s much more because of the unique occurrences of the last few innings than “LSU has to win this game to win the championship.”
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61638 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:14 am to
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The initial slip and then ricochet off head is more bad luck than unforced error.


That’s the kind of stuff that happens when pressure is involved. You overreact and slip. You panic and decide you have to make a play even when playing it conservative keeps you in the lead. You get desperate trying to make said play and the ball actually gets away from you.

Sorry man. It was a choke job.

This post was edited on 7/21/25 at 1:12 pm
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47780 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:19 am to
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Milam wasn't exactly blazing down to first.

First time in 2 years that I have been disappointed in Milam's effort on anything - guess nobody is perfect.

He absolutely should have been hustling his arse off there.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
7455 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:24 am to
I thought playing Arky a third time might affect the Tigers in a matchup against CC, but CC wasn't even close to competing in that second game. A third game against CC would've ended in a Tiger NC either way.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
24838 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:28 am to
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He absolutely should have been hustling his arse off there.


If you watch him during games and specifically on offense, he looks to have a hitch in his giddy-up per say. But definitely looks at times, like he's slower than last year.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17401 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:32 am to
My best guess is the runner going to third caught his attention and he felt he needed to hurry and get the lead the runner
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48992 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:40 am to
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Wehriwa(sp?)


we called him Lilo and his brother Stich.

Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15904 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:41 am to
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Arky had that deer in the headlights look on their faces in the 9th


It's like no one told them they were up 2 runs.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33787 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:43 am to
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He probably assumed that since he had to go to his right


He didn't have to move much to his right. He was positioned more towards 3rd base, but the ball was hit almost right to him. When he fields the ball his feet were set up for an easy thrown to second. He actually had to shift his body to make the throw to 3rd.

The bottom line is the pressure got to them. With a 2 run lead he, and the rest of the team, were playing incredibly cautious and he didn't think the situation out before the play. If he did, he would have known the runner going to 3rd was largely irrelevant and that he should try to turn 2 on any relatively easy ground ball. Worst (reasonable) case scenario is they don't get the runner at 1st (they would have because Milam basically conceded the out). If so, it's two runners on with 2 outs. One in scoring position and the tying run at 1st. That was the same scenario that resulted with him going to 3rd.

Arkansas played the 9th "not to lose", instead of putting the game away.

EDT:

While not quite to that extent, LSU had a similar meltdown in the final inning last year at UNC. Tie game in the 10 with 2 outs LSU gets a (long) flyball to right. Brown mistimes it at the end thinking he is about to hit the ball and drops the ball.
This post was edited on 7/21/25 at 10:50 am
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16502 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:51 am to
I’m just glad he dis
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26527 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:52 am to
The part that gets me is 3rd base not at least moving towards a throw to 1st for a double play.

Milam would have been toast as he was half jogging down the line.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2911 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 10:57 am to
quote:

Did he ever actually address it?


Maybe that’s the real reason he didn’t go to the postgame press conference. He knew it would come up.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2911 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Arkansas played the 9th "not to lose", instead of putting the game away.

That pretty much sums up what happened in the ninth, trying to take the ultra safe route.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33787 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 11:03 am to
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The part that gets me is 3rd base not at least moving towards a throw to 1st for a double play.


I genuinely think the overall mindset was "We're up 2. Just get the easiest out we can get on each play". I genuinely don't think he had any thought of turning 2 even before the ball was hit. That's why even though he fielded the ball with his body almost squared to 2nd he, without hesitation, shifted his body to through to third. In ANY other inning on that exact same play he's throwing to 2nd.

The good and bad thing about baseball is there is a LOT of downtime to think between the action. This probably isn't the best analogy, but in baseball terms Arkansas was trying to play "prevent" defense and just run out the clock.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20570 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 11:17 am to

May get DV into oblivion, but I think adding the trophy to this one is dumb. After that play they still had a chance to end the inning and go to extras. And, even if he makes that catch, it only gives them a shot to play the next day. Not even a lock for the championship series; let alone a shot at the trophy
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