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re: Is the QB already decided?
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:20 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:20 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Gilbert wasn't much of a factor in the passing game for Myles.
Gilbert & Marshall accounted for 77% of the yardage in the Missouri game alone
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FWIW Boutte finished the year with more yards and a higher YPC than Marshall.
Mainly because of outstanding run after catch. The whole offense change because the weapons went from being slight above average to below average for LSU standards
And cole Taylor replaced Gilbert & gave the team nothing. Huge drop off
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Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:20 pm to BK785
I don’t know why people pound on Brennan for things like 3rd down conversion rate or sacks allowed when Johnson really wasn’t any better.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:31 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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LSU's offense also had zero time to gel. The shortened practice time works both ways.
You can't seriously believe that shortened practice time affects offense and defense equally?
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As another poster pointed out their stats aren't that similar. Per start Myles higher YPG, YPA, and TDs.
You can cherry pick stats to say what you want but here's the total unedited statlines for both:
Brennan -
79-131/60.3%/1112yds/11TD-3INT
Johnson -
88-150/58.7%/1069yds/8TD-1INT
Looks damn near identical to me. Except that Max was a few months removed from high school playing against seasoned defenses without Terrace Marshall.
This post was edited on 7/10/21 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:32 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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I just think Coach O should have worded his comment better.
I love Ed O's honesty.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:33 pm to Lester Earl
quote:One game. Outside of that he averaged about 40 yards. Nothing spectacular considering what he was meant to be.
Gilbert & Marshall accounted for 77% of the yardage in the Missouri game alone
quote:That shouldn't take away from his numbers. His run after catch is part of what makes him so dangerous.
Mainly because of outstanding run after catch.
quote:This is true, but should make what Boutte did even more impressive. He was the only weapon on the field and still put up impressive numbers.
And cole Taylor replaced Gilbert & gave the team nothing. Huge drop off
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:36 pm to CP3forMVP
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I don’t know why people pound on Brennan for things like 3rd down conversion rate
Huge part of why they lost to State & Missouri
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:53 pm to shinerfan
quote:I think it majorly affected an OL that only returned one starter from 2019. Of course the defense is more affected than the offense, but let's not act like the offense wasn't also affected.
You can't seriously believe that shortened practice time affects offense and defense equally?
quote:Those "cherry picked stats" and standard measurement to include the games they started and exclude Max's garbage time in blow out games. But even if you take the "unedited statelines" for both Myles had a high completion percentage, more yards, more TDs and more yards per attempts in less games and with less attempts.
You can cherry pick stats to say what you want but here's the total unedited statlines for both:
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:54 pm to GeauxTigas18
No it’s not. But what he is saying is that the players always know who the best player is. Not that they know right now.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:57 pm to TigerLunatik
Don’t be shocked if the guy he’s talking about is Nussmeier. He’s been talking him up all spring and O usually is pretty straight forward with what he says. He still wouldn’t start Nuss this year but I think he will make the decision a lot more difficult. That being said it’s going to be Max. I love Myles but Max has that dog in him like Joe did to win at all cost.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 2:05 pm to GeauxTigas18
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Coach O says it’s already clear who the better player is. IMO that has to be Myles. He has a cannon and showed last year he could make every throw. Max was impressive but more as a runner.
People on here refuse to look at the dynamics of the QB situation at LSU this year. We return 19 starters which makes us one of the likely preseason top 10-12 programs that could compete for the Natty. We dont have room to fu_ck around. Brennan will get the first shot at starting. If he fails to produce Johnson will be a quick sub. We dont have a lot of time to experiment.
The dynamics I am referring to are that with Brennan at starter we have a RSF QB backup with 3 starts and a true freshman QB behind him and that is it. With Johnson starting out the season we maybe and maybe not have a 5th yr senior QB backup who is not in the right mindset for this role and a true freshman QB as possible #2 QB.
So with the Brennan starting scenario we have a strong QB room and a strong supporting team.
With Johnson starting we are in a crap shoot season with a weak QB room until next season along with a strong team. This scenario is a potential season bomb for those who came back for another run at a Natty.
So you all better hope Brennan can win this job and win these games. Even in this scenario I believe that Johnson is a mid to late season replacement if the results are not there or for another injury situation. By Tuscaloosa time I could not tell you who will be starting...
This post was edited on 7/10/21 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 7/10/21 at 2:09 pm to Lester Earl
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Huge part of why they lost to State & Missouri
This is what bothers me about Brennan in the crystal ball. He (We) had the opportunity to win both of those games at the end and we did not. This is the "IT" factor I referred to at the end of last season that is a question mark for me on MB.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 2:20 pm to GeauxTigas18
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IMO that has to be Myles.
Based on what? His 1-2 record as a starter? Or let me guess, he put up big numbers against the three worst defenses in the SEC? Yeah, I see why you’d think that.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 2:20 pm to BeeFense5
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bunch of empty stats
1112 yds passing, 11 TD passes, and a 154.3 rating in 3 games aren't empty stats. They're in fact quite Burrowesque.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 2:21 pm to GetmorewithLes
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This is what bothers me about Brennan in the crystal ball. He (We) had the opportunity to win both of those games at the end and we did not. This is the "IT" factor I referred to at the end of last season that is a question mark for me on MB.
To be fair Brennan got LSU in position to win vs Mizzou, but a torn abdominal muscle and swapping Gilbert for Tory Carter at TE seriously affected those final plays (there was a throw to Carter that was a TD with Gilbert, or even Taylor in at TE).
Against UF, despite a very good game, it was a thrown shoe, not a perfect pass that put LSU in position for the winning FG.
A fluke injury and fluke shoe tossing incident changed the outcome of 2 games. With all that, I still think Max puts LSU in a better position to win games due to his pocket awareness and mobility.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 2:24 pm to GeauxTigas18
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He has a cannon and showed last year he could make every throw.
We went 5-27 on third down as an offense through three games last year with Myles as the starter.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 2:25 pm to GeauxTigas18
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Myles kept us in the games.
In his first three starts all in which we’re in the sec. The nay sayers forget that point and it’s a rather BIG POINT.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 2:35 pm to tigerdup07
Johnsonn isn't transferring he knows he has 2 years left after Brennan if he can't beat him out. Also he'll probably play in several series per game.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 2:41 pm to Tiger79
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Johnsonn isn't transferring he knows he has 2 years left after Brennan if he can't beat him out. Also he'll probably play in several series per game.
Actually 3 years after this one. 2020 didn't count against eligibility.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 2:51 pm to TigerDat
He is definitely talking about max.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 2:53 pm to GeauxTigas18
quote:This is coach O's direct quote after saying everyone will know who's the best player. "Going" is future tense.
It’s going to work itself out and I’m going to let them play,”
quote:Not what was said. Don't be such an easy mark for the bama trolls on the SECrant.
Coach O says it’s already clear who the better player is.
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