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re: Is the QB already decided?
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:54 am to Eat Your Crow
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:54 am to Eat Your Crow
Brennan's stats from last season are fool's gold created by Marshall running wild against disorganized and un-practiced defenses. His complete lack of pocket awareness, (after five years in the program), is a far greater liability than Johnson's average arm. It was clear going into the spring game that Johnson was in the lead and neither did anything to change that.
This post was edited on 7/10/21 at 11:57 am
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Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:02 pm to GumbOrgeron
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Exactly this. Man some people on this board need to work on their reading comprehension
I tend to read it the same way you do but it's not a comprehension issue. It was poorly phrased.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:06 pm to shinerfan
quote:You could say the same for Max and his game against Ole Miss.
Brennan's stats from last season are fool's gold created by Marshall running wild against disorganized and un-practiced defenses.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:09 pm to GeauxTigas18
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Coach O says it’s already clear who the better player is. IMO that has to be Myles.
I guess you're not one of the locker room guys O is talking about then. Like it or not, Max Johnson is the present and future of LSU football
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:14 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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You could say the same for Max and his game against Ole Miss.
You'd have to ignore the fact that the Ole Miss defense had had most of a season to gel, unlike the first few games where every defense in the country was a shitshow due to shortened practice time. But even considering that, you do realize that their numbers on the season were virtually indentical? (Other than win-loss obviously.)
This post was edited on 7/10/21 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:16 pm to GeauxTigas18
quote:He actually let Mississippi State go into the 2nd quarter with a lead after 4 straight punts.
Myles kept us in the games.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:18 pm to BIG CAT
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It’s all Myles it’s his time
I think this is why many people favor Brennan. Understandably, we all like to see a guy (particularly in this day and age) who has worked and waited for his turn to get his reward for those efforts. That said, the QB job shouldn't be a "lifetime achievement award." The ONLY questions are who is better NOW (no matter how long they've been in the program) and who gives the team the best chance to win? If that is Brennan, great! I'll be pulling for him to succeed. But his loyalty, patience, whatever you want to call it, should have no bearing whatsoever on the decision. You play the best guy, PERIOD
This post was edited on 7/10/21 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:22 pm to GeauxTigas18
Yes, there will be a QB this year.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:26 pm to ipodking
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Except for throws on third down, in the red zone, or on the goal line
idiotking
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:47 pm to shinerfan
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But even considering that, you do realize that their numbers on the season where virtually indentical?
That depends on the categories of numbers you are looking at.
In 3 starts Brennan was 79/131 (~60%) for 1112 yards (8.5 YPA); 11 TDs; 3 INTs. He had -36 yards rushing (adjusted for sacks). On 3rd down the TEAM was 9/39 (23%) Brennan was sacked 9 times (7 vs MSU)
In 2 starts Johnson was 48/87 (55%) for 674 yards (7.7 YPA); 6 TDs; 1 INT. He had 97 yards rushing (adjusted for sacks) and 2 rushing TDs. On 3rd down the TEAM was 13/36 (36%). Johnson was sacked 3 times
Brennan had better passing numbers. But he is ZERO threat as runner. Johnson had lesser numbers. However, he showed the ability to gain yards on the ground. Neither were great on third down, though Johnson was slightly better. Neither had a fumble. Neither threw a ton of INTs, but Brennan had 1 per every 44 attempts; Johnson had 1 for every 87 attempts (1 for every 150 attempts if you add in the Auburn, A&M and Alabama games)
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:51 pm to dukke v
If you only knew, little fella
This post was edited on 7/10/21 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:54 pm to GeauxTigas18
Per Blake Ruffino, Josh Booty, Rohan Davy, etc., Max Johnson has separated himself from Myles Brennan both in the locker room and on the field. They also said it is because Max does the things better than Myles that Jake Peetz wants to do this fall.
Not to mention, until just recently Rohan was in the camp of Myles Brennan. Something must have changed his mind.
Obviously those guys are hearing that Max Johnson has separated himself from what the players in the locker room are telling them, as opposed to the coaching staff.
Not to mention, until just recently Rohan was in the camp of Myles Brennan. Something must have changed his mind.
Obviously those guys are hearing that Max Johnson has separated himself from what the players in the locker room are telling them, as opposed to the coaching staff.
This post was edited on 7/10/21 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:55 pm to TigerDat
If Brennan is not named the starter he is transferring that very day. He has 2 years of eligibility left and he will play another SEC team somewhere.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:01 pm to ipodking
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Except for throws on third down, in the red zone, or on the goal line
TDP and Emery should just quit football then to.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:02 pm to Alt26
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Johnson had lesser numbers.
What makes people think that Johnson, who was a true freshmen with barely any reps to transition from high school to the SEC because of Covid had already reached his zenith of what he is going to be as a QB last season?
I mean, most QBs make their biggest jumps in improvement after their true freshmen season because the game starts to slow down for them.
Do people believe that Myles Brennan had already reached his zenith as a player in his true freshmen season?
The truth is when we watched Max last season against Florida and Ole Miss, he wasn't close to reaching his zenith as a QB.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:03 pm to shinerfan
quote:and LSU's OL had most of the season to gel. The majority of Brennan's sacks came in the first game, which had some of the worst OL play I've seen from LSU. LSU's offense also had zero time to gel. The shortened practice time works both ways.
You'd have to ignore the fact that the Ole Miss defense had had most of a season to gel,
As another poster pointed out their stats aren't that similar. Per start Myles higher YPG, YPA, and TDs.
For what it's worth I haven't said whether I think Myles or Max should start. Max played well at the end of the year. Myles had good numbers to start the year. Both deserve a fair shot.
I just think Coach O should have worded his comment better. He isn't the best speaker.
This post was edited on 7/10/21 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:05 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Per start Myles higher YPG, YPA, and TDs.
Yes, throwing to Marshall & Gilbert
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:10 pm to MRGeaux
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If Brennan is not named the starter he is transferring that very day. He has 2 years of eligibility left and he will play another SEC team somewhere.
You don't think Ed O knows that?
However, head coaches don't make decisions based on whether a player may transfer or not. They make their decisions based on who will be the best QB for the team and on who will give the team the best chance to win.
As a head coach's job hinges on how may victories he can bring home.
Moreover, it won't benefit Myles to transfer right away because by the time the starter is announced, it will be far too late for Myles to transfer and to learn a new offense before the start of the season.
Hence, he may as well stick around with LSU in the backup role and then transfer soon after the season.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:15 pm to Lester Earl
Gilbert wasn't much of a factor in the passing game for Myles. 40 yards per game isn't great.
Marshall left and Max had 5 star Boutte to step into his role who had 100 yds vs Bama, 100 yds vs Fla, and 300 vs Ole Miss. Less not act like he had nobody left to throw to. Boutte will be one of the most talented WRs in the SEC this year.
FWIW Boutte finished the year with more yards and a higher YPC than Marshall.
Marshall left and Max had 5 star Boutte to step into his role who had 100 yds vs Bama, 100 yds vs Fla, and 300 vs Ole Miss. Less not act like he had nobody left to throw to. Boutte will be one of the most talented WRs in the SEC this year.
FWIW Boutte finished the year with more yards and a higher YPC than Marshall.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 1:18 pm to ipodking
You do know that if LSU would have had a decent defense in Brennan's starts, they would be undefeated. Offense scored enough points to win those games, it's just Pellini decided to field a shite defense.
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