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re: Is the QB already decided?

Posted on 7/10/21 at 9:54 am to
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 7/10/21 at 9:54 am to
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yes. it's obviously miles brennan unfortunately.



Unfortunately?

It would be a disaster if we only had one, but picking from three talented QBs is not disappointing.
Brennan and Johnson have both proven they are SEC ready. The better of the two is something to be excited about, if you are an LSU fan.
What happens if Brennan or Johnson gets injure at UCLA?
We are still good.
Posted by jvilardo
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/10/21 at 9:56 am to
What if Max comes in when inside the 20 yard line? Would that make it better?
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11971 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 9:57 am to
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Then why did Burrow ever see the field?



You asking why Burrow? Which QB, in the last ten years, would have ranked higher than Burrow.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7628 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 9:58 am to
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I believe if coach o knew it wouldn’t be Myles that he’d let em know. As long as he’s waited for his turn coach would tell him to go somewhere else and have a shot to show what he can do



Maybe if thry had anything other than a true freshman as a back up


Os first priority is winning, even more so after past season and with the off the field bs going on, this season has to be a success. If that means making sure Brennan stays as a back up then as much as it sucks for him, o gota do what he gotta do

Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:01 am to
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if Max comes in when inside the 20 yard line? Would that make it better


Lmao, so your saying Max can be trusted enough to come in when the field is tighter, but not start when the ield is more open.

That's just proving the point he is better than Myles if that would be the plan
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10442 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:13 am to
Then someone really needs to help Coach O with his public speaking because this
quote:

“We in the locker room know who the best player is, there ain’t no question, everybody knows. It’s going to work itself out and I’m going to let them play,”
sounds pretty definitive about the present.

I understand what you are getting at and what Coach O probably meant to say, but what he meant to say and what that quote says are two different things.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23009 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:14 am to
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Then why did Burrow ever see the field?


The better question is, then why did LSU go all in one getting burrow? If MB was a dude, it wouldn’t have even been on the staff’s radar to bring in another qb.

Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:15 am to
Everything that I’ve heard is it’s clearly Max. He just has the “it” factor that Burrow had and Myles lacks
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38221 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:15 am to
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And then told you about it. His “I gave it my all” quote after the Ms. St. loss was pretty weak.



hoping my post doesn’t get blown up but myles is seen as a weak leader and even disliked by some in the locker room. his selfish antics piss people off.

Max is almost universally seen as the superior leader and a much better teammate.

Fans while whine about how Myles has been here forever but the truth is he shouldn’t be going into his fifth year in a tight battle against a true sophomore. Interpret that how you wish.
This post was edited on 7/10/21 at 10:22 am
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10530 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:20 am to
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Everything that I’ve heard is it’s clearly Max. He just has the “it” factor that Burrow had and Myles lacks

You didn’t hear it, it was clear to see when Max was given his chance to start. You have to be able to move around in the pocket and extend plays in today’s college football. One of them can, one of them can’t. I respect Myles for being patient to get on the field, but the coaches have to play the better guy. I’ve heard people say Max is a more mobile version of Matt Leinart and I can’t disagree.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10442 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:23 am to
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I’ve heard people say Max is a more mobile version of Matt Leinart and I can’t disagree.
Posted by TigerDMoney
Member since Dec 2020
27 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:31 am to
He meant what he said. If you listen to the actual audio, he just gets carried away in his excitement talking to his buddy Bobby Hebert about his team. He feels relaxed with Bobby, and blurts out the truth that they know who the best quarterback is. Then he follows it up that they will make the two compete. He seems to expect that this 'best player' will prove himself.

Does anyone know how player led summer practices are going? Is Boutte repping with one QB more than the other? That would be telling.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12576 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:32 am to
Big Max Johnson!

Big Johnson Baby!!!
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62864 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:32 am to
quote:

yes. it's obviously miles brennan unfortunately.



I don't get this. They are both great options, so if one is clearly better, that is only a good thing for the team no matter who it is.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28267 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:33 am to
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Look at what he did last year. With a whole new system and a terrible o line. Played his heart out and if the defense would’ve been anything better than awful he’d won those games. Myles kept us in the games.


You could say the same thing about Johnson...and LSU won those games.

First, it wasn't a "whole new system". LSU didn't blow the doors off people offensively in 2019 then decide "Well, that was fun. Let's change our entire offense". While Brady was gone, Ensminger was still in the booth and it was many of the same concepts from 2019.

Moreover, Johnson was a true freshman while Brennan was a 4th year Junior. They each played behind the same OL. And Brennan had the luxury of playing with Marshall and Gilbert (LSU's two top receiving targets). Brennan certainly didn't get much help from his defense...but it is not like Johnson got much more. LSU's defense was opportunistic vs. Florida. But Florida did have 609 yards of total offense. And LSU's defense, while not good, was just as opportunistic vs. Miss. St where they forced 4 turnovers (including a pick 6).

I don't think anyone can say the decision is CLEAR either way. But, IMO, history perhaps gives a bit of insight as to how O really feels about Brennan

In late 2016, almost immediately upon being named the permanent HC, O began pushing hard to try to flip Tua from Alabama...despite the fact Brennan had been committed to LSU for several months. In fact, Brennan decommitted because of it and it was ONLY after Tua firmly ended any possibility of him not going to Alabama did O circle back and re-recruit Brennan.

Brennan played significant snaps in 2017 (vs. Syracuse and Troy). He went into the spring of 2018 as the de facto leader for the starting job in 2018. Despite all of that, 4 months before the season started O put on a full court press to bring in a transfer from OSU who, to that point, had not played a single significant snap in his college career, to come in and IMMEDIATELY become the starting QB in 2018. (Save the bullshite about Burrow being brought in to "compete" for the job. Burrow wasn't looking for a new school just to "compete" for the starting job...he could already do that at OSU. And O didn't need more "QB depth". He already had 3 guys on the roster with as much or more significant experience than Burrow. O didn't like his options at QB and went out to find a starter)

I don't really care what O SAYS. On two occasions over the course of two years O's actions suggest he may not have had a ton of confidence in Brennan. Now, has that changed over the course of 4 years? Perhaps.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62864 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:36 am to
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The better question is, then why did LSU go all in one getting burrow? If MB was a dude, it wouldn’t have even been on the staff’s radar to bring in another qb.


You're wondering why the coaches went hard after the greatest QB in LSU history? They obviously saw something and were proven as correct as they could have been.

I don't want O and staff to stop looking for greatness, even if they have solid options already on the team. Myles can be great and still not be as good as Joe. Most great QBs in CFB history fall into that category.

Then of course there's the obvious improvement and development. MB may have turned a corner since then. Likely had a lot to do with working with Joe.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2032 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:37 am to
I think it’s Max Johnson, but my feelings won’t get hurt if anyone disagrees with me or if I end up being wrong.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10442 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:40 am to
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He feels relaxed with Bobby, and blurts out the truth that they know who the best quarterback is. Then he follows it up that they will make the two compete. He seems to expect that this 'best player' will prove himself.
Which is what I said originally. They know who the better player is, but will make them compete and won't announce a starter in hopes of avoiding a tranfer.

If that's the truth then that's fine. This is just another case of Coach O saying something he shouldn't. He is just too transparent for his own good sometimes.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:44 am to
Hard to imagine Nick Saban framing it this way. Probably because Saban is still learning how to coach college football.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26137 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:45 am to
If this board is the arbiter of the starting QB debate, then the issue is settled: our starter is Max Johnson.
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