re: Is it time yet for some crow eating pie?

No, LSU still has not eclipsed where LSU was. Until that happens then it is just more of the same, it just looks prettier

STFU. Your such a bitch. Constantly stirring shite. I was 100% against his hiring. I still have my doubts, but am liking what is happening so far. If we lose a game, I will not say he is not the right hire, because of a loss. I do think he is a better hire than Fisher would have been.

it feels good not to have to eat crow.I was on board from day 1

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Lets also throw in the hiring of Coach Ensminger who by the way is one of ours

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Regardless what a person does, they can never turn a Pinto into a Mustang. E is a good OC, not elite, not great, not very good, he is good. Canada was better. Hiring E was the only move O had after he sent Canada packing. I understand there were a lot of differences and the hire was a mistake, I applaud O for coming forth and admitting it wasn't working, but Canada was a Mustang. Whether Brady is or isn't remains to be seen. There will be several more test along the way of this season, O must pass each and every one to be considered an Elite HC. He has done good so far, but he has not surpassed his predecessor. And that is where we want to be, where his predecessor was at one time.

Slow flow pro was one.

Ouch. That guy won't be back in this thread.

When are you guys going to understand fisher and Herman were not coming. Neither was any other proven winner.. not their is one other than Saban.

Orgeron was a low risk high upside hire.

He has already moved from the 63 rd ranked coach to the 15th ranked coach. No doubt today he would be ranked in the top ten.

Coach Miles let our talent level decline. Yes the offensive scheme and lack of a QB hurt our program

Orgeron is from a Jimmie Johnson and Pete Carroll coaching tree. We are lucky to have him.

You guys waiting for another 10games to pontificate on him are ridiculous.

We still have talent and depth problems on the D line and O line compared to Bama. We have probably caught up to and passed almost every one else

my baw ricky frickin daddy gon be makin posters start being RESPONSIBLE posters!

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Regardless what a person does, they can never turn a Pinto into a Mustang. E is a good OC, not elite, not great, not very good, he is good. Canada was better. Hiring E was the only move O had after he sent Canada packing. I understand there were a lot of differences and the hire was a mistake, I applaud O for coming forth and admitting it wasn't working, but Canada was a Mustang. Whether Brady is or isn't remains to be seen. There will be several more test along the way of this season, O must pass each and every one to be considered an Elite HC. He has done good so far, but he has not surpassed his predecessor. And that is where we want to be, where his predecessor was at one time.

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well said. O definitely fricked up firing Canada and most including myself said it will be a longshot if he can fix that mess he caused by meddling among other things plus luring some other offensive mind here because we knew E can not do it by himself. just look at the bama games and his problems making adjustments.

anyway we all prayed and hoped O could tuyrn this chickenshit situation into chicken salad!

so far it looks damn good! he just might pull off the improbable. odds were highly stacked against him. i really like brady alot. i said it many times he will decide our fate. LSU's fate. O's fate.

so far so good corch. let's keep this rolling and win multiple championships and hardware. regardless of style or substance O has to win hardware to eclipse miles. whether we like it or not. it is what it is. long way to go but.............

BRADY OR BUST!

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Do you still believe that coach Orgeron is a proven failure due to his record at Ole MIss

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As of today, Ed Orgeron's career record as the head coach of his own program (teams where he was hired to be the full time coach, not interim) stands at 31-32. So yeah, TECHNICALLY his resume as the full time head coach of his own program sits below .500. I'd add the interim results as well, but if he can't have criticism for losses that occurred during that time (so I've been told) then he ought not get to take credit for wins either.

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that you don't have to wait and see how it plays out (his career here at LSU)

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No one has said he will remain a coach with a sub .500 career record...just that when we hired him, that's precisely what he was. And by A LOT.

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you already know he is a failure and a terrible coach

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Up until this job, he has been. He had been so bad, no program had offered him even a legit interview for their HC position...and that was AFTER his SC interim gig. Is he currently? No...it looks as though he's gotten better...but then given what his record was when we hired him, I'd hope so.

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I think most fans think he has done a pretty good job here at LSU and are happy with the direction of the program and think the future looks pretty good with Coach O at the helm. Of course no one knows the future, just like we didn't know in in 2017 when he was hired (though you claimed to already know, you know, because of facts and all). Maybe we still won't turn the corner and get back to being an elite program again, like we were during our glory years when we competed for titles and were a fixture in the top 10, really only two very short periods of time unless you want to go back to the late 50's early 60's, from 2003 to 2007 (when we finished ranked #1, #16, #6, #3 and #1 respectively), and once again from 2010 to 2011 (finished #8 and #2) but logical people knew and know that we have to see how it plays out (unlike you who "due to facts" already knew he was a failure and didn't need to see how it plays out or give him a chance because you already knew). Its a miracle that such a failure and terrible coach coached LSU to a #6 finish in his 2nd season (btw, since you love facts, we have only had 5 seasons ranked as high or higher 5 times in the last 50 years) as HC and has us off to such a great start in 2019.

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I was going to go through this line by line, but it's mostly talk about waiting to see if our terrible hire turns out to be a lucky and great end result. Again...we ALL HOPE this works out and in twenty years people mention Ed Orgeron's name along side Saban, Lombardi, Belichick, Bryant, etc. As LSU fans, that would mean we'd done something very special. That will NEVER EVER retroactively make his hiring when he had amassed a 10-25 record as a full time SEC coach a smart one, or a logical one, or one that can ever be explained as anything other than cheap and lazy. You mentioned not having a crystal ball...exactly! Since we don't have one, you hire the resume and don't gamble so recklessly with the future of the program on the possibility that a reclamation project works out. You hire the best available candidate (many MANY were available and for what we could have paid) and you hope for the best. You don't hire one of the worst options and hope for the best and tell the fan base they are now just going to have to wait and see if the gamble pays off.

Again...everyone is happy right now and even happy with Orgeron. Why oh why continue to post things like this that leads to having to address stuff like this? Why not just be happy about TODAY? And for the record, not being happy about today (because you're not satisfied yet with the level of apologies you think you've seen from fellow Tiger fans) and feeling the need to say, "I TOLD YOU SO" is precisely the point of the entire thread.