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Is it EVER the players fault?

Posted on 11/19/24 at 4:39 am
Posted by Florida225
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
2869 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 4:39 am
I've been on the site for many years and every single time LSU doesn't have a TD scoring drive or stop a team from scoring you'll see 100's of posts immediately calling for coaches heads.

At what point can this fan base just say, "hey maybe that 4-5 star recruit wasn't all that great to begin with."

Can we never hold players accountable for anything, on or off the field? Skipping classes and getting suspended, taking it easy during practice and completely gassed after 2 plays, spending all night at the casino hours before kickoff, betting against themselves on a parlay.

I do not think BK is the best we could've got but at some point you can just see, some of these dudes are rat shite.

Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
26933 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 4:41 am to
Yeah but it's the coaches job to coach them to play well and recruit better. You can't be in the SEC and recruit and coach like your at ND. You will get your shite pushed in like we are this year
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 4:42 am to
The staff has been really bad at evaluating talent……especially guys on the both lines of scrimmage….
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 4:43 am
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
1461 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 5:07 am to
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Yeah but it's the coaches job to coach them to play well


You missed the point. The same coaches, minus 1, had the best offense in college football. They are getting the same caliber coaching, the players just suck.

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recruit better


This is more the problem, but it’s not so much as just recruiting better talent. They have talent, but back to the other point, they just aren’t figuring things out.

It does all ultimately fall on the coaches to get the right people tho, so they clearly need to figure something out.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42891 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 5:13 am to
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Is it EVER the players fault?
Players get criticized all of the time, they’ve never been immune this site.

The problem is when just about every player has regressed or sucks, I’m not sure you can put that on the individuals and you have to look broader.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34042 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:15 am to
It absolutely is the quality of the players that is a major issue but it's the players at every single position which goes to roster management and recruiting.

The head coach is responsible for building the team and staff, if the roster is very weak then that's on the head coach
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41261 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:23 am to
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taking it easy during practice and completely gassed after 2 plays


That’s on coaches. There’re ways now to monitor this.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79742 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:35 am to
The coach recruits and picks the players.

If the players aren’t good enough, it’s on the coaches.

Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
4336 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:38 am to
Never

Always the coaches
Nevermind these guys are pros making big money with years of exp


It's an odd situation many here have.
They think they are super fans above criticizing players for lack of effort or execution.

To answer your question it's absolutely the players fault.
Especially at this level.

They know what to do.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13120 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:51 am to
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You missed the point. The same coaches, minus 1, had the best offense in college football. They are getting the same caliber coaching, the players just suck.



Obviously that 1 missing was the linchpin to that #1 offense. And of course the Heisman QB who ran forward instead of backwards while throwing the ball. Just another reminder that the Nuss Bus is a short bus and his OC is seated next to him while the HC is driving it.
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
2077 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:00 am to
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especially guys on the both lines of scrimmage….


I disagree on the lines of scrimmage. I think they've been really bad in the secondary. On the LOS:

We had 3 DT's drafted last year - 2 of which transfered in under Kelly. Womack and Swinson appear to be hits. The rest are just too young to tell at this point.

We have 2 future draft picks on the OL that were recruited under Kelly that are sure to get drafted. Miles Frazier transfered in under Kelly and is currently graded out as a mid round draft pick. Zalance Heard transferred out because he wanted to play tackle immediately but was behind 2 future NFL picks. We sure could use him on the interior right now.
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
6472 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:03 am to
I’m over the “they’re just kids” shield that’s surrounded college athletes forever. They are adults. They are now getting paid with money donated by fans to a collective.

I’m not saying fans should cross the line but in my opinion college players are just as fair game as the pros now in terms of criticism.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
4350 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:12 am to
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Can we never hold players accountable for anything, on or off the field? Skipping classes and getting suspended,


Ain’t nobody getting suspended for this in “today’s college football” . lol classes?!?! This is professional football now.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
21726 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:21 am to
This team does not execute plays very well.....in all 3 phases.
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
13891 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:27 am to
First time watching? The Coach controls the development of players. When they don’t produce, next man up. BK sucks at all aspects of the game minus banging his fist on a table after a loss
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
25197 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:28 am to
Sage Ryan was a 5-star safety.

A 5-star safety should be feared by offenses. Sage is not a difference maker.
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 11:13 am
Posted by Pauvetibete
Member since Apr 2022
1013 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:31 am to
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Players get criticized all of the time, they’ve never been immune this site.


Uh, Chicken was just in here yesterday defending Frogman. We've also had NUMEROUS in game threads deleted in the last 2 years calling out Perkins for bad plays.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104494 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:34 am to
Sure. But if the employees tank a company the CEO is getting fired for not having better employees
Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
1701 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:34 am to
Now that these kids are making big dollars, yes they need to be held accountable for their performance.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
8698 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 7:35 am to
If you get into a habit of bashing the players, then other players won't want to come here.
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