- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Info on Harris and Jennings
Posted on 11/9/14 at 12:52 pm to Spelt it rong
Posted on 11/9/14 at 12:52 pm to Spelt it rong
quote:
Harris vs Jennings: Harris can throw it the entire field and is super talented (we all know this) but he doesn't put in the work that AJ does in the film room. He said not a day goes by that he's not in the film room or working with WR's. I told him that it wasn't showing and he just kind of put his head down and said "I know. It's frustrating at times but we're still so young you know?" I basically asked if Miles showed favoritism and he said "not at all. He wants them to compete every week and get better. Jennings has great practices and just never leaves the film room. He's trying to be a student of the game, but Harris is on his heels."
Rudy Ruettiger was a student of the game and had all the heart in the world but that didn't mean he should have started.
Which of our qbs has the most upside? I think we all can agree Harris does? It's time for Harris to take over.
1
Posted on 11/9/14 at 12:58 pm to MMauler
quote:
The kid took 1021 a total of 5 times before he just gave up and transferred to a community college
Is your friend a shoe?
Posted on 11/9/14 at 1:14 pm to lil 7thward
Think about it in a work environment and Cameron is a manager and miles is an executive
You have a salesman that shows up early, stays late, always does the extra work, knows the products inside and out, is dependable and works well with others. He does OK in making his numbers but probably won't be a top performer over the long haul because he is limited in his abilities to close deals.
You have a new hire that is a female thoroughbred. Very attractive, very likable, presentation abilities off the charts. But she doesn't work very hard, relies on her looks and personality to get things done and doesn't know your product line. You know she could be your top employee but you don't know if she wants it.
You can run out the first guy and he won't embarass you but he also may not make much of an impression. You can run out the girl and she could knock it out of the park, but she could also face one technical product question that causes her to trip up and she loses the client immediately.
Which way do you go?
You have a salesman that shows up early, stays late, always does the extra work, knows the products inside and out, is dependable and works well with others. He does OK in making his numbers but probably won't be a top performer over the long haul because he is limited in his abilities to close deals.
You have a new hire that is a female thoroughbred. Very attractive, very likable, presentation abilities off the charts. But she doesn't work very hard, relies on her looks and personality to get things done and doesn't know your product line. You know she could be your top employee but you don't know if she wants it.
You can run out the first guy and he won't embarass you but he also may not make much of an impression. You can run out the girl and she could knock it out of the park, but she could also face one technical product question that causes her to trip up and she loses the client immediately.
Which way do you go?
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:36 pm to Spelt it rong
quote:
but he doesn't put in the work that AJ does in the film room.
I'm not doubting your conversation, I just find this hard to believe. Harris seems to portay that he is preparing himself. If what he said is true, then I can only blame Harris for not getting himself ready, which is just dumb considering how much he has gained on Jennings already. The fact that he has seen the field and even started a game this season proves how close the competition is between the two. If he isn't putting in the extra time, then shame on him.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 8:40 pm to supatigah
quote:
Which way do you go?
I get the girl to improve her work ethic, which seems pretty easy in the case of the QB's. That is why I just don't understand why Harris wouldnt be working his arse off to take over. Just doesnt make sense if true.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 8:54 am to Calculus Entropy
Bump
And nice deflect effort Calculator.
And nice deflect effort Calculator.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 9:08 am to MMauler
quote:
Maybe it's time for Jennings to transfer to a community college. He clearly doesn't get it and never will. If Les can't see that by now (especially with all the sh!t we went through with Jordan Jefferson), he never will either.
GTFO with this bullshite. None of us know the inside scoop. Jennings is a 4 star recruit with offers from a ton of schools, including Bama. Yes, I wish he would go in and win the game, but it hasn't happened yet. I'm glad to hear he's a hard worker an putting in the time needed to succeed.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 9:21 am to Ghostfacedistiller
quote:
I'm glad to hear he's a hard worker an putting in the time needed to succeed.
This. Just because it appears that he will not be able to lead us to a NC at this point does not mean that he will not be an important piece of this team going forward. Maybe he teaches Jennings how to put in the time or helps him with the playbook. Maybe Harris goes down and Jennings keeps us from losing a game we shouldn't. Maybe Harris never pans out, though this is not my belief, anything can happen with QB's no matter the talent level. Part of the reason we have trouble with QB's at LSU is the attitude of the players we've had that is reflected by the fan base. If you struggle we are done with you/if I don't get my shot when I want I'm done with this school. Jennings isn't going to transfer because he believes in LSU. Him leaving provides absolutely nothing positive going forward. I do Harris matures and is ready to lead this team next year, but I hope Jennings is right behind him helping him after every series and ready to step in should he be needed. Most of all, I'm ready for QB's who come here and bust arse for 3-4 years trying to be the best they can possibly be for this program.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 9:24 am to fightin tigers
quote:
You either didn't say this or the converstion would have been over.
Always one in every crowd.
Do everyone a favor and STFU, you don't what guy asked him.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:54 am to Mr. Wayne
quote:
This. Just because it appears that he will not be able to lead us to a NC at this point does not mean that he will not be an important piece of this team going forward. Maybe he teaches Jennings how to put in the time or helps him with the playbook. Maybe Harris goes down and Jennings keeps us from losing a game we shouldn't. Maybe Harris never pans out, though this is not my belief, anything can happen with QB's no matter the talent level. Part of the reason we have trouble with QB's at LSU is the attitude of the players we've had that is reflected by the fan base. If you struggle we are done with you/if I don't get my shot when I want I'm done with this school. Jennings isn't going to transfer because he believes in LSU. Him leaving provides absolutely nothing positive going forward. I do Harris matures and is ready to lead this team next year, but I hope Jennings is right behind him helping him after every series and ready to step in should he be needed. Most of all, I'm ready for QB's who come here and bust arse for 3-4 years trying to be the best they can possibly be for this program.
I agree with your opinion. This is where coaching is very critical, which CLM & his staff haven't been very successful especially with the QBs in the past. The trouble with Perrilloux, the under development of JJ/JL, and now the AJ/BH lack of competency; they were all among the best prospects nationally in high school, don't you think the problem is more with the coaches?
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:11 am to macanLSU
CLM is playing the QB that he most trusts with running the offense & not making mistakes to lose the game. This is the philosophy his whole offensive game plan this yr is based on. Obviously, he & Cam would love to have a higher completion percentage, from either QB, but, bottom line, neither has been consistent (practice & game ) this year, so Cam & Les are simply making due with the best QB available. To say Cam or Les is not playing the best practical QB on the roster is ridiculous. They see both QB's every day in practice, study hrs & hrs of film, know each's strong & weak points, etc. But game/practice time/film does not lie & neither is stupid or a fool. Now, as to why these 2 are the best we have is a whole different question.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:14 am to Mr. Wayne
quote:
Mr. Wayne
I agree with that post for sure. Lots of shortsighted folks around here don't seen to get it.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:21 am to Ghostfacedistiller
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:26 am to DBU
Rivals reported a bama offer. Sometimes those things are wrong both ways.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:29 am to jose
quote:
What are they doing then, just practicing how to down field block and how to hand off the ball?
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:37 am to YouAre8Up
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:37 am to Black n Gold
RE:
This comment, which has been repeated by others, is astounding to me. Jennings has looked lost in almost every game, especially the Miss. St. game, which is why Brandon started vs. NMS.
Harris has had 1/4 the attempts. Something like 45 vs 170. He has a better YPC, Completion ration, ration of attempts to TD's etc. QB ratings are Harris 175 & Jennings 120. He also has thrown few int's
If Harris had been given the same # of attempts he would be our starter for a long time. Jennings knows the coaches are going with him. Harris is being used as a mop up guy. Let the boy play. Use the 2 QB system if you have to.
quote:
More often than not, Harris has looked very lost this season.
This comment, which has been repeated by others, is astounding to me. Jennings has looked lost in almost every game, especially the Miss. St. game, which is why Brandon started vs. NMS.
Harris has had 1/4 the attempts. Something like 45 vs 170. He has a better YPC, Completion ration, ration of attempts to TD's etc. QB ratings are Harris 175 & Jennings 120. He also has thrown few int's
If Harris had been given the same # of attempts he would be our starter for a long time. Jennings knows the coaches are going with him. Harris is being used as a mop up guy. Let the boy play. Use the 2 QB system if you have to.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:38 am to Golfpreaux
quote:
Bottom Line It doesn't matter how much film Jennings studies HARRIS is the better QB and should be playing
Based on what? Harris played well against inferior competition and in the last 3 minutes of an SEC game that was COMPLETELY out of hand. It was a small miracle that LSU had a hail mary throw at the end of the MSU game. If the center doesn't inexplicably snap the ball over Prescott's head that hail mary never happens and we aren't even talking about that game as the apparent "evidence" that Harris is the better QB.
Harris got the start at AU (deservedly so) and was absolutely atrocious. He completed 21% of his passes (1 on a broken play; and two short ones to the backs) and on most of his attempts were horribly off target. With him leading the way LSU had NINE 3 and out drives in 2.5 quarters.
Ultimately the guy may, in fact, be the better QB. If the LSU coaches want him to be the starter next year or for the foreseeable future, then there is no use in stashing him on the bench at this point. That said, I have failed to see anything other than fan hype which definitively shows that he is the "better" QB. All I hear is that he "has a better arm!" That doesn't mean shite when the ball is sailing 3 ft over your receiver's head at 70 mph.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:57 am to Alt26
quote:
Harris got the start at AU (deservedly so) and was absolutely atrocious.
Didn't the coaches see during the week of preparation that Harris was not ready? I'm definitely just a fan, but still would like to question the coaches (especially QB coach) ability to prepare and develop his players for such a tough assignment. Or the coaches simply didn't have a choice to throw Harris in the fire and see if he can survive?
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:30 pm to Keltic Tiger
quote:
neither has been consistent (practice & game ) this year,
Seriously??? Harris had a very poor outing at Auburn there is no denying that, but look at the situation he was thrust into. Prior to that game Harris stats were OFF THE CHARTS.
Page 3 of 7
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News