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Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:30 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Well, that's just silly. Things don't happen in a vacuum.
Right. It's a multivariate problem.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:31 am to Powerman
IMO better way to frame-up their 9-3 record.
1. Lost our best OL before the season started.
2. Started a OL with (2) SOPH OT's, Soph C (1st yr starter), and JUCO G (1st yr in SEC)
3. Replaced all impact RB's & WR's
4. New QB, who arrived on campus this past summer
5. Lost our best pass-rusher in the 1st game, and never developed a remotely close replacement after the Miami game.
6. TAM game, should have went our way. No other way to say it.
With 9 starters projected to return on OFF, 8 starters on DEF, and a projected top-5 recruiting class inbound this program is pointed in the right direction.
1. Lost our best OL before the season started.
2. Started a OL with (2) SOPH OT's, Soph C (1st yr starter), and JUCO G (1st yr in SEC)
3. Replaced all impact RB's & WR's
4. New QB, who arrived on campus this past summer
5. Lost our best pass-rusher in the 1st game, and never developed a remotely close replacement after the Miami game.
6. TAM game, should have went our way. No other way to say it.
With 9 starters projected to return on OFF, 8 starters on DEF, and a projected top-5 recruiting class inbound this program is pointed in the right direction.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:31 am to MOT
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Would you also tell us how grossly overrated Auburn and Miami were
I think that LSU'S strength of schedule is number 2. Please stop this ridiculous argument.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:32 am to Summer of George
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9 wins for O will always be over achieving. Get used to it
This is probably true.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:32 am to Summer of George
So overachieving is bad now? 
I can certainly get used to overachieving every year.
I can certainly get used to overachieving every year.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:33 am to Powerman
quote:A loss is a loss. We very easily and should have gone 11-1 this year. Think about that. 11-1 vs 9-3. The fact that we could have easily gone 11-1 means "overachieving" should not in any way be uttered. We did not overachieve.
Sure. But it's not like we shite the bed in those games. Both of those games were highly competitive and winnable.
You can NEVER say a team overachieved when they have two losses on their record they should have won. EVER.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:33 am to Powerman
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Obviously all of the pundits picked us to be 6-6 to 8-4 at best
Who are these "pundits" and why should I give a Damn what they think about LSU?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:33 am to bencoleman
I asked a question about Miami and Auburn that is relevant to the hypothetical thread topic, that’s not an argument.
Please stop derailing every thread you post in and being a shitty poster in general.
Thanks.
Please stop derailing every thread you post in and being a shitty poster in general.
Thanks.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 9:48 am
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:34 am to HC87
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With 9 starters projected to return on OFF, 8 starters on DEF, and a projected top-5 recruiting class inbound this program is pointed in the right direction.
And we have UF, AU, TAMU at home next year
Our toughest road games will be Texas and Alabama most likely and let's be honest it doesn't really matter much where the Alabama game is.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:34 am to Dave England
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There were actually posters on this board who said that between Thornton and Anthony’s production, LSU “wouldn’t miss him”.
Yeah, that was stupid. Chaisson has rare explosion off the snap. The others do not.
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LSU has had a non existent passing game for 5 season now. It is the rule not the exception.
I don't disagree. Burrow looked like a first year starter because he was but he has improved. Poor OL play, an inconsistent run game and bad play design has limited passing success. Also, red zone efficiency continues to be very poor.
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The SEC year in year out fields some of the best defenses in the country. Where does it rank nationally?
We are 39th nationally vs the run. 32nd overall and 6th best overall in the SEC.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:35 am to abellsujr
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A loss is a loss.
Sure
But losing in 7 overtimes to TAMU on the road is a lot more palatable than getting the doors blown off by MSU is it not?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:35 am to Powerman
These people would certainly be citing preseason expectations if LSU were favored to win the title and then shite the bed.
I don't think anyone should be happy with this season, but that doesn't mean we can't discuss realistic expectations based on real world occurrences.
LSU got blown out by Alabama. LSU lost two games on the road and had the ball to win the game at the end in both games. They did fail in both and that needs to be discussed and criticized.
But to characterize this season as some kind of epic failure or program killing season is ridiculous.
I don't think anyone should be happy with this season, but that doesn't mean we can't discuss realistic expectations based on real world occurrences.
LSU got blown out by Alabama. LSU lost two games on the road and had the ball to win the game at the end in both games. They did fail in both and that needs to be discussed and criticized.
But to characterize this season as some kind of epic failure or program killing season is ridiculous.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:37 am to atltiger6487
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but but but.....I've been told by this board all season that those are Top 10 wins, because those teams were ranked there at the time we played them.
oh i know and think it’s hilarious.
but truth is a big part of LSU’s projection was playing two legit top10 teams away from home.
in reality, we played two teams that weren’t anything special. If you tell us before the season that those two teams wouldn’t be any good, our preseason projections increase by 2 wins probably across the board.
meaning somewhere between 8-4 and 10-2.
we finished right in the middle of that.
that’s not overachieving.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:39 am to abellsujr
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You can NEVER say a team overachieved when they have two losses on their record they should have won. EVER.
TAMU was favored to win the last game
The only game we were favored to win and lost was UF and we won several games where we were not favored (Miami, AU, UGA)
So if you're going to make that argument, try to not sound like a moron about it.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:39 am to Powerman
quote:11-1 vs 9-3. Two losses that we should have won. That's not overachieving. Overachieving would have been going 11-1 with our only loss going to Bama and a big win over Georgia. We're just going to disagree here. Saying we overachieved at 9-3 with two losses going to teams we should have beat is never overachieving to me. Saying we "met" expectations is hard enough, but I'm giving credit to the Georgia game. It was a big win.
Sure
But losing in 7 overtimes to TAMU on the road is a lot more palatable than getting the doors blown off by MSU is it not?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:40 am to abellsujr
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we could have easily gone 11-1
Nothing easy about winning at UF and at A&M. But we really were in good position to win both of those games. Didn’t work out.
Bottom line we had 3 close games out of 12. All on the road in very difficult places to win. We won 1 and lost 2. That should probably have been reversed - win 2 and lose 1. And obviously had a chance to win all 3.
8 of our 9 wins were not even close. 1 loss we weren’t close - obviously bama.
When you break it down, this team had a very good season. And clearly the CFP committee sees it that way as well. Yet so many tiger “fans” are miserable for some reason. It doesn’t make any sense.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:41 am to Powerman
quote:It doesn't matter if they were favored in the spread. Many experts picked us to win. We were ranked 7th. They were ranked 22. At worst, it was a toss up game. Which again, "met" expectations.
TAMU was favored to win the last game
The only game we were favored to win and lost was UF and we won several games where we were not favored (Miami, AU, UGA)
So if you're going to make that argument, try to not sound like a moron about it.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:43 am to Powerman
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In retrospect this team probably overachieved
LSU has more talent than 10 of the 12 teams on their schedule. How are they overachieving?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:43 am to Powerman
quote:Only moron here is you. Saying losing to aTm and Florida is "overachieving". God help LSU.
So if you're going to make that argument, try to not sound like a moron about it.
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