re: If LSU doesn't make the playoffs this year is this a wasted season?

Wow, that’s not a talent eval, that’s your intentional misleading as usual. 9th is where we actually stand so the no talent excuse isn’t valid like I said.

Hold up, are you asking a question because immediately after you dismissed any answer to your question. And BTW UGA was in the national title game year 2 so don’t know where you’re getting the idea that it took him longer to build a winner.

Well people said the same thing about our 2020 defense, the worst in school history btw yet 13 of those players made it to the NFL so you could be mistaken in thinking none of these guys can play. Our problems could be elsewhere.

Who are the highest graded players?

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Hold up, are you asking a question because immediately after you dismissed any answer to your question. And BTW UGA was in the national title game year 2 so don’t know where you’re getting the idea that it took him longer to build a winner.

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You're not suggesting that Kirby inherited a similar program to what Kelly did, are you?

Kirby took over from Richt, it would be like taking over from Miles. Program is on solid ground, just needs to be tweaked a bit.
Kelly came in post-Orgeron, after the program had been allowed to collapse.

Anyway, I'm making observations, not asking a question.

Like my discussions with LSUBoosie, I see LSU as a potential, and you need a coach to tend that potential and build it. I think we have the immense talent pool to get back to elite, which sets us aside from schools like, say, Wisconsin, etc. We need to rebuild the structure, and then fill back up with talent working within that structure. I think the defense will improve back to traditional LSU standards, and it seems like our offense (read- our QB) will be above what we saw in Dinardo/Saban/Miles eras. I think our WRs will stay great, and our RBs will return to the standard we used to have.

I think Kelly is far better suited for the long-term aspects of this, as compared to a lot of other options. Orgeron could recruit, and he had a natty, but he didn't keep things running. I think Kelly's a stronger program manager than him, by a lot.

Once we get things back to normal, I see the occasional runs at titles, just like we used to under Miles. There may be better gameday guys, but there will be years when we just have the best talent.

I'm not worried about this year, because I think big-picture we're in really good shape.

Ok but you’re the one that said it took UGA awhile now you’re adding qualifiers that weren’t there in that statement so how am I supposed to retroactively account for that? As far as getting to elite, that’s the beauty of the 12 team playoff, you don’t have to be elite. I’m not saying he has to win it all or even win a playoff game but he said judge him on this year, nobody made him do that.

No, because we can return a bunch of players to build upon this year. Especially Nuss and other skill position players and defense.

Losing Campbell, Jones, Perk, and Lacy hurts but for the most part we are a pretty young team.

You can find arguments both ways. Kalen DeBoer took a 4-8 team then went 11-2 in his first year and 14-1 in his 2nd year, winning a playoff game. So wanting Kelly to make a 12 team playoff in his 3rd year isn’t the craziest of things.

Problem is he’s 3-7 vs ranked teams at LSU and not beating the upper crust teams has always been the knock on Kelly. So far there’s no reason to think he’s figured out how to get over that hump yet.

You quoted a talent evaluation site that has us 9th which seems correct to me. Again, you guys always do this, if I asked you how many NFL players were on the 2020 defense you’d have said Stingley and Stevens yet 13 of those guys made it to the NFL so claiming this one and that one is an NFL player before they’re drafted is really pointless.