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Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:08 pm to Rjlebla
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Furthermore, I’ve never understood paul’s decision making in managing pitchers
generally speaking, over the last 10 years, we have been among the most elite pitching staffs in the country. Our #1 starter has been drafted in the 1st round from 2009-2017. This will be the first year our #1 likely doesn't go in the 1st round. This year, we had our entire starting rotation leave for the draft or suffer a season ending injury. Then, our top 2 high school recruits (Labas and Storz) either missed basically the entire season (Sotrz) or huge chunks of it (Labas). Gilbert has been hurt. He went from having a sub 2 ERA throwing 94 to ballooning over 5 and maxing out at around 90 with not near the movement on any of his pitches. Then Hilliard goes out right before the NCAAT. When you lose that many top shelf pitchers and are limited to 27 scholarship players, more than half of which are not pitchers, then it's not really something that can just be coached around.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:11 pm to KLSU
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7 right off the top of my head.
Sullivan - UF
Bianco - OM
Dave Van Horne - AR
Tim Corbin - Vandy
Pat Casey - OSU
Mike Fox - UNC
Gary Gilmore - Coastal Carolina
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KLSU
Dude you so funny.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:13 pm to BilJ
quote:As my post above said, the NCAA still has to approve the additional paid coach.
Nice of them to do something positive for the sport for a change. Hopefully CPM makes the most of it.
If it passes the only thing that would change for LSU is that a coach would be paid by the university's athletic department rather than by TAF and the LSU baseball camps he works.
"Volunteer coach" at LSU just means he isn't paid by LSU but he is paid a decent stipend by TAF and Mainieri's baseball camps.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:16 pm to Midtiger farm
and where were any of those programs before those coaches arrived? Where was the LSU program before CPM?
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:22 pm to DBG
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Sacrifice a pitcher or two and get a first baseman. Find at least 1 power bat. Stocking up on versatile athletes isn’t terrible, but he needs to tweak it.
Saul Garza hit 23 HRs in Juco last year.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:23 pm to KLSU
You think Maineri came into a good situation here?
He didn’t follow skip. Smoke was running this program into the ground
He didn’t follow skip. Smoke was running this program into the ground
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:26 pm to KLSU
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and where were any of those programs before those coaches arrived? Where was the LSU program before CPM?
DVH has been at arkansas for 15 years.
Bianco has been at Ole Miss for 17 years.
Fox has been at UNC for 20 years.
The state of those programs before they got there is no longer an excuse.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:32 pm to KLSU
quote:In the shitter, missing out on the NCAA tournament and having a losing SEC record. The old Alex Box was half empty for SEC games and many of the baseball donors stopped giving.
Where was the LSU program before CPM?
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:54 pm to klew5
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Last year was our deepest run in those 8 years and it just happened to be the outlier in which we saw an uptick in hrs - 69.
I’m not saying hrs = wins I’m just saying PM has power way too low on his priorities and it’s become a detriment. Especially with how fragile pitchers have become.
correlation =/= causation. We made that deep run in Omaha due to masterful pitching performances to get us through the losers bracket. After the loss to Oregon State in our second game, we allowed 6 runs over the next 3 games. In the 2 wins against Oregon State to advance, they managed 2 runs and 5 hits combined.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:08 pm to Midtiger farm
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You do realize Cain's recruiting classes have been better than Andy's
And Gibbs did a heck of a job last year
It’s just low hanging fruit so people who can’t find anything to bitch about.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:09 pm to DBG
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Kevin O’Sullivan
I think if Sully and PM switched jobs, they would also switch results.
No way O’Sullivan could have the level of success at LSU that he now enjoys at UF. The state of Florida is the hottest recruiting bed for elite players in the nation, and it’s not close. There’s a ball field everywhere you turn, and they all take it seriously from little league up. It’s in their culture.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:12 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Disagree. Florida over the years before O’Sullivan was very hit or miss. They also have shite facilities.
O’Sullivan took them to another level starting around 2010.
O’Sullivan took them to another level starting around 2010.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:13 pm to KLSU
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Where was the LSU program before CPM?
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:54 pm to I B Freeman
Don't understand who people would want if CPM was booted. Andy Cannizaro is available I hear
Posted on 6/4/18 at 6:35 pm to I B Freeman
I wouldn't trade him away either, but I am scratching my head wondering why Florida keeps reloading with all these big league type pitchers. shite they've got like 4 aces at a time throwing 95+. I'm not writing this to badmouth our program. I'm simply wondering how in the hell they get all those thoroughbreds. Must be slipping some cash under the table. I despise the Florida Gators, and I'm hoping them bastards have a downturn coming their way, particularly with regards to recruiting.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 6:38 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Well then we've got to steal some of them guys away from Florida! They are bringing in too many bigtime pitchers at a time. LSU Baseball must put a stop to it in recruiting.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 6:50 pm to DBG
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Disagree. Florida over the years before O’Sullivan was very hit or miss. They also have shite facilities. O’Sullivan took them to another level starting around 2010.
I agree I think if you switch coaches with UF that the results are around the same for both programs.
They are both great coaches/recruiters. Sullivan may have equal or better success here and CPM would have equal success there as they have had.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 7:21 pm to jgriffith
Florida may not make the super regionals either.
Losing now to Florida Atlantic.
Losing now to Florida Atlantic.
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